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Problem with FAH2 validators???

First noticed this yesterday and it is worse today. Do the validators get shut off during end-of-day processing? I'm not sure that alone would explain what I am seeing though. Tonight, I have FAH2 wus that are single validation that are still in Pending Validation that were returned as long as EIGHT hours before EOD. Looking at various permutations of Results Status does show that it is not EVERY FAH2 wu that has been returned in the last 12+ hours. If this was just the validators being turned off during EOD processing, I would not expect wus from before 23:00 UTC still being in PVal 3+hours after EOD. I haven't checked during the day to see if this is a routine backlog either.
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Re: Problem with FAH2 validators???

Maybe there's cross-result learning being applied before generation of the next seed? You're not the first to observe AsyncRE to be stuck in PVal, albeit there was no come back if that earlier report got resolved: https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewpostinthread?post=554089
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Re: Problem with FAH2 validators???

Yes, I've seen this behaviour too. It doesn't bother me too much, but it would still be good if a tech would take the time to explain what's going on.
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Re: Problem with FAH2 validators???

Just checked Results Status and I currently have 28 FAH2 wu in PVal covering the past eight hours. The oldest was returned at 11/13/17 06:09:13. It is now coming up on 14:00:00. Further checking shows that these are scattered among the FAH2 wu I have returned today. They are not part of a single block. It would seem that the validators do not work on a FIFO basis as I would expect with single replication wu. My thinking at this point is that the FAH2 validators are simply unable to handle the current volumes everyone is returning.
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Re: Problem with FAH2 validators???

Like keithhenry
yesterday, i done 12 FAH2 wu, and 2 stay "pending validation" for several hours. Valided in he night.
Today, same case, 2 "pending validation" in the middle of other validated wu.
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Re: Problem with FAH2 validators???

Greetings,

Short answer to subject: Yes.

Long Answer: The validators have some extra checks in it to make sure things are progressing well. When something is off or needs to be investigated, it stops running. This is to prevent things from getting out of hand and to see why in a specific case where it is assumed all would be fine, isn't. In this particular case, when a result is returned, we check the original input file for some data to help us determine what is needed to be validated and what is expected. It has failed to read this input file. Thus, STOP!!! Alerts are sent. It happened 3 times over the weekend and I'm working on fixing that permanently. Since it was the weekend and a vacation, I opted on fixing up the input file for those results manually since that took only a few minutes. I will be working towards the permanent fix today.

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Re: Problem with FAH2 validators???

OK, so it is/was not a quantitative issue, rather a qualitative biggrin
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Re: Problem with FAH2 validators???

Thank-you for the details Keith -- much appreciated!
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Thanks for the answer, Uplinger smile
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Re: Problem with FAH2 validators???

Greetings,

Just an update. I am working on deploying the changes now. Currently all FAHB validators are disabled until the fix is completed.

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