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CPU what is best for calculating the WCG

Hi I have been using the community for som years, and I would like to know if anyone know what cpu is best for calculating the different research grids in here. I have used an Intel processor with 4 cores. is a xeon faster ?? or AMD's new processor ?? any suggestion.

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Re: CPU what is best for calculating the WCG

@Admin, think this is better served by being in the Hardware Chat Room.
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Re: CPU what is best for calculating the WCG

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Re: CPU what is best for calculating the WCG

The very best, with no limits on price, would be a Xeon V4 ES chip with 24 cores / 48 threads. Hard to find, expensive to buy. The new Xeon V5 model's top of the line cpu may have 28 or even 32 cores, and will of course be faster (and much more expensive as well).
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Re: CPU what is best for calculating the WCG

Thx for reply so fast.,,

I believe that the xeon processor is out of range of my budget :)

But nice to know-..
is xeon the older one too,, better than fx. the Intel I7 or AMD ryzan 7.. I think that my budget is better for the older xeon or the new Intel or AMD.. what can you recommend when we talk not over 700-800$... Thx
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Re: CPU what is best for calculating the WCG

There is an entire thread here about the RYZEN chips from AMD which appear to give pretty good value, especially the 1700. They are not as fast as the top end xeons, but not nearly as expensive either. Sometimes buying a used machine or used cpu can be cost effective.
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Re: CPU what is best for calculating the WCG

You should first define "best". This could be:

1.) fastest cpu regardless of price
2.) best output in relation to price (wcg points per day / price)
3.) best output in relation to total cost of ownership (including price for cpu, other hardware and electricity for a couple of years)

Depending on what is "best" for you, the answer will be completely different.

1.) Would be certainly be a recent XEON with the maximum number of cores you can find.
2.) would be any system you can get for free or very cheap, just let many of them crunch if they are too slow, just don't cry if you see your electricity bill
3.) A 4-core Intel i7 with Hyperthreading should be a good compromise between price and energy efficiency. Depending on your cost for electricity a relatively new one or a somewhat older (cheaper, but somewhat less energy efficient) should do it. Also XEON engineering samples are considered to be a good option, not too old ones as they are less energy efficient. AMD Ryzen also seems to be a good option.

Regarding energy efficiency: lower clock speed is normally better. For example I deactivated TurboBoost on my i7-3770, so it runs with 3.4 GHz instead of 3.7 GHz. After calculation I found the added cost for rising electricity consumption not worth the higher speed, as power usage rises overproportionally with clock speed.
XEONs with many cores but relatively low clock speed are very energy efficient for the same reason.
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Re: CPU what is best for calculating the WCG

In case your intend is to collect badges then select a CPU with many cores and Hyperthreading and set it to static low in BIOS (1200 MHz). For example a XEON E5 with 12 cores and HT will contribute 24 days for one day run time.

If work done / points per day is your choice then multiply cores x MHz x single thread Technology improvement factor. The later as a rough estimate is

Starting with sandy Bridge: 1,0
Ivy Bridge 1.05
Haswell 1.15
Broadwell 1.2

The higher the total ghz the more points you get.
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Re: CPU what is best for calculating the WCG

For WCG, if you're on a budget that doesn't allow for expensive Xeons, the next best in my opinion is the Ryzen 7. Clock-for-clock it's around the same performance as a Haswell, but you get double the number of cores. You may want to consider the cost of electricity too - in such case go for the 1700 (non-X) and run it in the 3.0-3.3GHz range where it's super energy efficient.
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applause Re: CPU what is best for calculating the WCG

For WCG, if you're on a budget that doesn't allow for expensive Xeons, the next best in my opinion is the Ryzen 7. Clock-for-clock it's around the same performance as a Haswell, but you get double the number of cores. You may want to consider the cost of electricity too - in such case go for the 1700 (non-X) and run it in the 3.0-3.3GHz range where it's super energy efficient.


couldn't agree more "thumbs up",
I use an energy efficient CPU Series for the same economic,Ethical & scientific reasoning's ....

the AMD FX E class is very worthy ! http://bit.ly/HPCImpact

also the A10 and A 10 FX series is pretty stella considering the GPU on die.

others have seemed to do the work faster at times, i however do have piece of mind not extremely overclocking an honest working machine.

yours kindly RS
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