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Thread: When will Athlon Processors be Supported? |
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PeaceRiverGuy
Cruncher Canada Joined: Apr 6, 2008 Post Count: 13 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Just thought I'd add a separate thread for this known issue so that we Athlon users can just reference this one from time to time for an announcement that the problem is solved so we can start crunching some usable results.
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TPCBF
Master Cruncher USA Joined: Jan 2, 2011 Post Count: 2068 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Just thought I'd add a separate thread for this known issue so that we Athlon users can just reference this one from time to time for an announcement that the problem is solved so we can start crunching some usable results. I am not sure what kind of Athlon processor you are referring to, but in general, HST does not work on ANY 32bit OS though it is supposed to run on 32bin Win7 and up. If you are still running Windows XP or Windows Server 2003, then you are definitely SOL, the project admins/programmer just give a hoot...Ralf |
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BobCat13
Senior Cruncher Joined: Oct 29, 2005 Post Count: 295 Status: Recently Active Project Badges:
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I too am curious about which Athlon processor you refer to. Here are a few lines from startup on my Athlon64 6000 and a task that is valid.
08-May-2016 10:19:16 [---] Starting BOINC client version 7.6.32 for windows_intelx86 08-May-2016 10:20:00 [---] Processor: 2 AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+ [Family 15 Model 67 Stepping 3] 08-May-2016 10:20:00 [---] OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Professional x86 Edition, Service Pack 3, (05.01.2600.00) HST1_ 002628_ 000001_ MC0011_ T000_ F00018_ S00004_ 1-- Microsoft Windows 10 Core x64 Edition, (10.00.10586.00) 716 Valid 5/23/16 03:04:21 5/23/16 08:20:33 4.97 135.1 / 145.6 HST1_ 002628_ 000001_ MC0011_ T000_ F00018_ S00004_ 0-- Microsoft Windows XP Professional x86 Edition, Service Pack 3, (05.01.2600.00) 716 Valid 5/23/16 03:04:13 5/23/16 10:30:57 6.06 154.8 / 145.6 <=== mine |
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PeaceRiverGuy
Cruncher Canada Joined: Apr 6, 2008 Post Count: 13 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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As I reported in another thread a month ago, I'm running Windows 10 on AMD FX8300 with 32 GB of RAM. I did 21 work units with every one coming up invalid with valid results from other users. I was informed in that thread that there is a known issue with this project and Athlon processors
----------------------------------------There are plenty of projects that can use valid results so until this know issue is resolved, I've chosen to work on them rather than wasting processing time on this project. |
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KerSamson
Master Cruncher Switzerland Joined: Jan 29, 2007 Post Count: 1684 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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During the last two years, from time to time I experienced a higher rate of invalid WUs computed with Athlon II x4 CPU (Linux x64), in particular for VINA based projects.
----------------------------------------The situation was significantly worst before. I noticed that sometimes WUs computed by AMD based hosts (Athlon II and Phenom II) are more often invalid than by Intel hosts. Years ago, it was mentioned that such situation could be caused because of the large majority of involved Intel hosts comparing to AMD. In all cases, I select the projects for the hosts based on the observed CPU affinity; e.g. with Linux: OET1, MCM, HST1 are fully OK. I avoid HST1 on Intel HT processors because of the less efficient memory management (comparing to 4 or 6 real cores by Athlon and Phenom (I do not have any experience with AMD FX CPU)). Zika is running well on i7 in the both environments: Linux as well as Win7. Cheers, Yves |
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sgoll
Advanced Cruncher Joined: Oct 24, 2006 Post Count: 87 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Just thought I'd add a separate thread for this known issue so that we Athlon users can just reference this one from time to time for an announcement that the problem is solved so we can start crunching some usable results. I am not sure what kind of Athlon processor you are referring to, but in general, HST does not work on ANY 32bit OS though it is supposed to run on 32bin Win7 and up. If you are still running Windows XP or Windows Server 2003, then you are definitely SOL, the project admins/programmer just give a hoot...Ralf Hmmm. > uname -a Linux zaphod2 2.6.32 #1 SMP Tue Mar 1 18:05:57 GMT-1 2016 i686 GNU/Linux > grep HST stdoutdae.txt ... 22-May-2016 22:16:21 [World Community Grid] Started upload of HST1_002536_000021_MC0029_T350_F00010_S00004_0_r1607669206_6 22-May-2016 22:16:23 [World Community Grid] Finished upload of HST1_002536_000021_MC0029_T350_F00010_S00004_0_r1607669206_6 22-May-2016 22:16:27 [World Community Grid] Finished upload of HST1_002536_000021_MC0029_T350_F00010_S00004_0_r1607669206_4 Sorry, but HST runs fine on 32 bit Linux. Only valid results as I can see. It's a c2d running in 32 bit mode. AMD Athlon should be fine too. -- Stephan PS: Help Stop TB 250 MB 100 MB Windows2, Mac2, Linux1,2 ... 1. Version for x86 processors is available Source: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/help/viewTopic.do?shortName=minimumreq  [Edit 1 times, last edit by sgoll at May 26, 2016 11:09:07 AM] |
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SekeRob
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To straighten the facts: Specifically 32 bit HST fails on XP-SP3, unless you apply a hack. For that you're on your own... search the forums on how to. Linux/Mac had 32 bit from the start, Windows 32 bit was delayed due stability, and a comment was left by a tech in IIRC the 32 bit announcement thread, that there was an [unspecified] issue with AMD. Till then, opt-out if your device does not succeed on HST.
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PeaceRiverGuy
Cruncher Canada Joined: Apr 6, 2008 Post Count: 13 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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To straighten the facts: Specifically 32 bit HST fails on XP-SP3, unless you apply a hack. For that you're on your own... search the forums on how to. Linux/Mac had 32 bit from the start, Windows 32 bit was delayed due stability, and a comment was left by a tech in IIRC the 32 bit announcement thread, that there was an [unspecified] issue with AMD. Till then, opt-out if your device does not succeed on HST. Thanks SekeRob. That is what I did and the purpose I had for the creation of this thread was for there to be a notification that the unspecified issue had been addressed so I and other Athlon users can restart contributing to this project with usable results that advance the research. I see no value in producing a large number of invalid results just to receive a badge for processor time. Doing so is actually antisocial because it slows the project and delays confirmation of the validity of other cruncher's contribution. [Edit 1 times, last edit by PeaceRiverGuy at May 26, 2016 9:21:01 PM] |
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