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Former Member
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Luck of the draw still, I suspect. It looks as if your _1 and _2 wingmen exited in Job #0 and so agreed with each other, while your _0 exited in Job #3 so was deemed invalid. Do the result logs concur with that guess? Probably nothing to do with Windows version.
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Former Member
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The final result for that first workunit of mine that exited with RC = 0x1 in Job #0 is that my _1 turned Invalid, while _0 & _2 turned Valid after both exited in Job #3. Another luck of the draw situation that would be disappointing in production.
BETA_ E236441a_ 240_ S.482.C54H18N4O2S6.SVBPLOQAQKCZBI-UHFFFAOYSA-N.12_ s1_ 14_ 2-- Microsoft Windows 10 Professional x64 Edition, (10.00.10586.00) 700 Valid 14/04/16 10:09:27 15/04/16 01:47:25 12.07 515.3 / 390.3 BETA_ E236441a_ 240_ S.482.C54H18N4O2S6.SVBPLOQAQKCZBI-UHFFFAOYSA-N.12_ s1_ 14_ 1-- Microsoft Windows 7 Professional x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00) 700 Invalid 13/04/16 18:18:08 13/04/16 20:25:25 1.91 75.1 / 75.1 BETA_ E236441a_ 240_ S.482.C54H18N4O2S6.SVBPLOQAQKCZBI-UHFFFAOYSA-N.12_ s1_ 14_ 0-- Microsoft Windows 8.1 Professional x64 Edition, (06.03.9600.00) 700 Valid 13/04/16 18:17:33 14/04/16 10:09:17 9.37 265.4 / 390.3 |
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nanoprobe
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Can one of the techs explain the reasoning behind the tasks running for 8,9 or even 10+ hours before the first checkpoint?
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SekeRob
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S.482.C54 ... the higher the C number, the more complex the molecule [and this is a far from original 'reasoning'].
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yoro42
Ace Cruncher United States Joined: Feb 19, 2011 Post Count: 8979 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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After rebooting the laptop the WU came back with 0% Progress and 12 hrs to run. (Restart?)
----------------------------------------To the best of my memory, this job was around 70% complete with 2 hrs to finish after 10hs run time. Currently it is the only job running on an 8 processor LT. All other WU are suspende which has not really made it run faster. I plan to run the following tests. Would a different test order be preferred? 1. Suspend & Resume 2. Suspend at checkpoint & Resume 3. End and Restart BOINC Manager 4. Reboot 5. Shutdown & Start BETA_ E236441a_ 784_ S.492.C59H27N1O5S4.PURPVAQVVKDEJG-UHFFFAOYSA-N.8_ s1_ 14_ 2-- LesterGordon In Progress 4/14/16 17:24:29 4/18/16 17:24:29 0.00 / 0.00 0.0 / 0.0 BoincTasks properties: 2016-04-15 10:19 AM Computer: LesterGordon Project World Community Grid Name BETA_E236441a_784_S.492.C59H27N1O5S4.PURPVAQVVKDEJG-UHFFFAOYSA-N.8_s1_14_2 Application beta11 7.00 Workunit name BETA_E236441a_784_S.492.C59H27N1O5S4.PURPVAQVVKDEJG-UHFFFAOYSA-N.8_s1_14 State Running Received 4/14/2016 10:24:08 AM Report deadline 4/18/2016 10:24:29 AM Estimated app speed 3.07 GFLOPs/sec Estimated task size 86,121 GFLOPs CPU time at last checkpoint 00:00:00 CPU time 12:45:39 Elapsed time 12:55:28 Estimated time remaining 02:40:00 Fraction done 70.894% Virtual memory size 417.28 MB Working set size 251.71 MB Directory slots/8 Process ID 2383 ---------------------------------------------- BoincTasks properties: 2016-04-15 09:28 AM Computer: LesterGordon Project World Community Grid Name BETA_E236441a_784_S.492.C59H27N1O5S4.PURPVAQVVKDEJG-UHFFFAOYSA-N.8_s1_14_2 Application beta11 7.00 Workunit name BETA_E236441a_784_S.492.C59H27N1O5S4.PURPVAQVVKDEJG-UHFFFAOYSA-N.8_s1_14 State Running Received 4/14/2016 10:24:08 AM Report deadline 4/18/2016 10:24:29 AM Estimated app speed 3.07 GFLOPs/sec Estimated task size 86,121 GFLOPs CPU time at last checkpoint 00:00:00 CPU time 11:54:44 Elapsed time 12:04:27 Estimated time remaining 02:42:09 Fraction done 66.179% Virtual memory size 417.31 MB Working set size 241.91 MB Directory slots/8 Process ID 2383 MESSAGE LOG: LesterGordon 587 4/15/2016 9:34:34 AM log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task, checkpoint_debug, task_debug 586 4/15/2016 9:34:34 AM Config: GUI RPCs allowed from: 585 4/15/2016 9:34:34 AM Config: GUI RPC allowed from any host 584 4/15/2016 9:34:34 AM Config: report completed tasks immediately 583 4/15/2016 9:34:34 AM Not using a proxy 582 4/15/2016 9:34:34 AM Re-reading cc_config.xml 581 4/15/2016 9:34:31 AM [time] dt 10.010824 w2 0.999988 on 0.999088; active 0.999954; gpu_active 0.999954; conn -1.000000, cpu_and_net_avail 0.999954 580 4/15/2016 9:34:21 AM [time] dt 10.011783 w2 0.999988 on 0.999088; active 0.999954; gpu_active 0.999954; conn -1.000000, cpu_and_net_avail 0.999954 579 4/15/2016 9:34:11 AM [time] dt 10.010726 w2 0.999988 on 0.999088; active 0.999954; gpu_active 0.999954; bla bla bla to save space conn -1.000000, cpu_and_net_avail 0.999954 495 4/15/2016 9:20:08 AM [time] dt 10.009042 w2 0.999988 on 0.999087; active 0.999954; gpu_active 0.999954; conn -1.000000, cpu_and_net_avail 0.999954 494 4/15/2016 9:19:58 AM [time] dt 10.007967 w2 0.999988 on 0.999087; active 0.999954; gpu_active 0.999954; conn -1.000000, cpu_and_net_avail 0.999954 493 4/15/2016 9:19:48 AM [time] dt 10.008128 w2 0.999988 on 0.999087; active 0.999954; gpu_active 0.999954; conn -1.000000, cpu_and_net_avail 0.999954 492 4/15/2016 9:19:38 AM [time] dt 10.008095 w2 0.999988 on 0.999087; active 0.999954; gpu_active 0.999954; conn -1.000000, cpu_and_net_avail 0.999954 491 4/15/2016 9:19:28 AM [time] dt 10.008527 w2 0.999988 on 0.999087; active 0.999954; gpu_active 0.999954; conn -1.000000, cpu_and_net_avail 0.999954 490 4/15/2016 9:19:23 AM log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task, checkpoint_debug, task_debug, time_debug 489 4/15/2016 9:19:23 AM Config: GUI RPCs allowed from: 488 4/15/2016 9:19:23 AM Config: GUI RPC allowed from any host 487 4/15/2016 9:19:23 AM Config: report completed tasks immediately 486 4/15/2016 9:19:23 AM Not using a proxy 485 4/15/2016 9:19:23 AM Re-reading cc_config.xml 484 4/15/2016 9:19:18 AM [time] dt 10.038291 w2 0.999988 on 0.999087; active 0.999954; gpu_active 0.999954; conn -1.000000, cpu_and_net_avail 0.999954 483 4/15/2016 9:19:08 AM [time] dt 10.045100 w2 0.999988 on 0.999087; active 0.999954; gpu_active 0.999954; conn -1.000000, cpu_and_net_avail 0.999954 476 4/15/2016 9:17:58 AM [time] dt 10.033996 w2 0.999988 on 0.999087; active 0.999954; gpu_active 0.999954; conn -1.000000, cpu_and_net_avail 0.999954 475 4/15/2016 9:17:49 AM log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task, checkpoint_debug, task_debug, time_debug 474 4/15/2016 9:17:49 AM Config: GUI RPCs allowed from: 473 4/15/2016 9:17:49 AM Config: GUI RPC allowed from any host 472 4/15/2016 9:17:49 AM Config: report completed tasks immediately 471 4/15/2016 9:17:49 AM Not using a proxy 470 4/15/2016 9:17:49 AM Re-reading cc_config.xml 469 4/15/2016 9:17:48 AM [time] dt 10.032776 w2 0.999988 on 0.999087; active 0.999954; gpu_active 0.999954; conn -1.000000, cpu_and_net_avail 0.999954 468 4/15/2016 9:17:38 AM [time] dt 10.033031 w2 0.999988 on 0.999087; active 0.999954; gpu_active 0.999954; conn -1.000000, cpu_and_net_avail 0.999954 458 4/15/2016 9:15:59 AM log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task, checkpoint_debug, task_debug, time_debug 457 4/15/2016 9:15:59 AM Config: GUI RPCs allowed from: 456 4/15/2016 9:15:59 AM Config: GUI RPC allowed from any host 455 4/15/2016 9:15:59 AM Config: report completed tasks immediately 454 4/15/2016 9:15:59 AM Not using a proxy 453 4/15/2016 9:15:59 AM Re-reading cc_config.xml 452 4/15/2016 9:15:58 AM [time] dt 10.024863 w2 0.999988 on 0.999087; active 0.999954; gpu_active 0.999954; conn -1.000000, cpu_and_net_avail 0.999954 451 4/15/2016 9:15:47 AM [time] dt 10.023308 w2 0.999988 on 0.999087; active 0.999954; gpu_active 0.999954; c 440 4/15/2016 9:13:57 AM [time] dt 10.035479 w2 0.999988 on 0.999087; active 0.999954; gpu_active 0.999954; conn -1.000000, cpu_and_net_avail 0.999954 439 4/15/2016 9:13:57 AM log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task, checkpoint_debug, task_debug, time_debug 438 4/15/2016 9:13:57 AM Config: GUI RPCs allowed from: 437 4/15/2016 9:13:57 AM Config: GUI RPC allowed from any host 436 4/15/2016 9:13:57 AM Not using a proxy 435 4/15/2016 9:13:57 AM Re-reading cc_config.xml 434 4/15/2016 9:13:47 AM [time] dt 10.018375 w2 0.999988 on 0.999087; active 0.999954; gpu_active 0.999954; conn -1.000000, cpu_and_net_avail 0.999954 433 4/15/2016 9:13:41 AM log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task, checkpoint_debug, task_debug, time_debug 432 4/15/2016 9:13:41 AM Config: GUI RPCs allowed from: 431 4/15/2016 9:13:41 AM Config: GUI RPC allowed from any host 430 4/15/2016 9:13:41 AM Not using a proxy 429 4/15/2016 9:13:41 AM Re-reading cc_config.xml 428 4/15/2016 9:08:39 AM 14 connections rejected in last 10 minutes 427 4/15/2016 9:08:39 AM GUI RPC request from non-allowed address 2.0.231.209 426 World Community Grid 4/15/2016 9:05:39 AM Scheduler request completed 425 World Community Grid 4/15/2016 9:05:36 AM Not requesting tasks: some task is suspended via Manager 424 37 4/14/2016 9:42:35 PM GUI RPC request from non-allowed address 2.0.222.136 36 4/14/2016 9:32:30 PM 24 connections rejected in last 10 minutes 35 4/14/2016 9:32:30 PM GUI RPC request from non-allowed address 2.0.216.218 34 4/14/2016 9:22:55 PM 11565 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU 33 4/14/2016 9:22:55 PM 3048 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU 32 4/14/2016 9:22:55 PM Number of CPUs: 8 31 4/14/2016 9:22:55 PM Benchmark results: 30 4/14/2016 9:22:25 PM GUI RPC request from non-allowed address 2.0.211.39 29 4/14/2016 9:22:23 PM Suspending computation - CPU benchmarks in progress 28 4/14/2016 9:22:23 PM Running CPU benchmarks 27 4/14/2016 9:22:14 PM Not using a proxy 26 4/14/2016 9:22:14 PM gui_rpc_auth.cfg is empty - no GUI RPC password protection 25 4/14/2016 9:22:14 PM (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager) 24 4/14/2016 9:22:14 PM max upload rate: 999000 bytes/sec 23 4/14/2016 9:22:14 PM max download rate: 999000 bytes/sec 22 4/14/2016 9:22:14 PM max disk usage: 10.00GB 21 4/14/2016 9:22:14 PM max memory usage when idle: 5499.50MB 20 4/14/2016 9:22:14 PM max memory usage when active: 5499.50MB 19 4/14/2016 9:22:14 PM Preferences: 18 4/14/2016 9:22:14 PM Reading preferences override file 17 4/14/2016 9:22:14 PM General prefs: using separate prefs for work 16 World Community Grid 4/14/2016 9:22:14 PM Computer location: work 15 World Community Grid 4/14/2016 9:22:14 PM General prefs: from World Community Grid (last modified 09-Apr-2016 10:45:55) 14 World Community Grid 4/14/2016 9:22:14 PM URL http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/; Computer ID 3503029; resource share 100 13 4/14/2016 9:22:14 PM Config: GUI RPCs allowed from: 12 4/14/2016 9:22:14 PM Local time is UTC -7 hours 11 4/14/2016 9:22:14 PM Disk: 909.02 GB total, 855.16 GB free 10 4/14/2016 9:22:14 PM Memory: 7.67 GB physical, 7.87 GB virtual 9 4/14/2016 9:22:14 PM OS: Linux: 4.2.0-35-generic 8 4/14/2016 9:22:14 PM Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf eagerfpu pni 7 4/14/2016 9:22:14 PM Processor: 8 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3632QM CPU @ 2.20GHz [Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9] 6 4/14/2016 9:22:14 PM Host name: LesterGordon 5 4/14/2016 9:22:14 PM No usable GPUs found 4 4/14/2016 9:22:14 PM Data directory: /var/lib/boinc-client 3 4/14/2016 9:22:14 PM Libraries: libcurl/7.35.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1f zlib/1.2.8 libidn/1.28 librtmp/2.3 2 4/14/2016 9:22:14 PM log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task 1 4/14/2016 9:22:14 PM Starting BOINC client version 7.2.42 for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu  |
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Former Member
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How is it fair to get zero credit for a WU when my machine does perfectly good processing for 18 hours? The fact that the WU trashes itself before it gets to the end of the first step is NOT my fault; it is NOT an "error" on my side. WCG has the capability to fix this!
They should either:
I keep pointing out that the trend to low power-drain processors has meant that there is an increasingly wide range in FlOps capability of new machines, even without taking into account perfectly serviceable but old and slow machines like mine. I believe this issue really does need looking at. And, just for the record, after the previous CEP2 beta I got no credit for around 20 WUs that failed in this way, so the beta "fix-up" process is broken too. I do this for science, not for credit, but that doesn't stop it hurting when things like this don't get sorted out when they've been known for quite a while. And it might even drive others away from WCG altogether. I know that time spent fixing these things is time spent not really helping the science, but this is a voluntary system so grumbles can cost processing power if volunteers walk as a result. Sorry for the rant, but I needed to get it off my chest. |
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adriverhoef
Master Cruncher The Netherlands Joined: Apr 3, 2009 Post Count: 2346 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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After rebooting the laptop the WU came back with 0% Progress and 12 hrs to run. (Restart?) To the best of my memory, this job was around 70% complete with 2 hrs to finish after 10hs run time. ... snip ... CPU time at last checkpoint 00:00:00 CPU time 12:45:39 Elapsed time 12:55:28 Estimated time remaining 02:40:00 Fraction done 70.894% ... snip ... As you can see the WU was still on its way towards the first checkpoint, so when you rebooted the WU had to be restarted from the very beginning. |
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yoro42
Ace Cruncher United States Joined: Feb 19, 2011 Post Count: 8979 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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As you can see the WU was still on its way towards the first checkpoint, so when you rebooted the WU had to be restarted from the very beginning. I see it now. Can one of the techs explain the reasoning behind the tasks running for 8,9 or even 10+ hours before the first checkpoint? S.482.C54 ... the higher the C number, the more complex the molecule [and this is a far from original 'reasoning']. Thanks to all three of you! |
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Rickjb
Veteran Cruncher Australia Joined: Sep 17, 2006 Post Count: 666 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Apis Tintinnambulator: I came here just now to say the same thing.
BETA_ E236441a_ 623_ S.484.C52H20N8S6.BUYQGTISGQSVTE-UHFFFAOYSA-N.15_ s1_ 14_ 0-- was sent to a slow machine (not mine), and got terminated at 18.00h, with 0 credit. The log file indicated that it was progressing normally. I agree that that was unfair. I expect that the time limit is there to catch jobs that have gone off the rails to prevent them looping indefinitely. A way of extending the time limit for long jobs on slow machines needs to be implemented. |
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SekeRob
Master Cruncher Joined: Jan 7, 2013 Post Count: 2741 Status: Offline |
Maybe this science app is not able to assess if it is progressing normally, except for those RC = conditions. If it were endlessly looping, then the max_fpops [which is like 10 fold standard], could maybe be lowered to 2-3 fold and the 18 hour limit be removed. Given that the server keeps injecting a variable 'normal' fpops based on returned results, if there are many RC = stops, that normal fpops will be too low, so a reduced max fpops factor would cut out many results on faster machines before the 18th hour... catch 22.5 maybe? We keep on inserting our ideas of how it 'should' be, when not knowing all the criteria.
----------------------------------------FAIK, credit is granted, but not always. I do see 18 hour jobs killed at job #0 that do get credited, not the member machine's fault. On the other hand, maybe it's a good idea to then opt-out as continuing in is not advancing science one iota, just time credit tallying. [Edit 1 times, last edit by SekeRob* at Apr 19, 2016 10:46:06 AM] |
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