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Former Member
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https://boinc.berkeley.edu/projects.php
-In deciding whether to participate in a project, read its web site and consider the following questions: 1- Does the project clearly describe its goals? 2- Are these goals important and beneficial? 3- Has the project published results in peer-reviewed journals or conferences? 4- Do you trust the project to use proper security practices? 5- Who owns the results of the computation? 6- Will they be freely available? 7- Will they belong to a company? After contributing to WCG and looking at this web site, i still can't answer all those questions to my satisfaction. 1- Humanitarian in general and each project makes it kind of clear, so this could be a yes. 2- They seem to be. 3- It has published results concerning computing and probably concerning previous projects. 4- I would hope so, but IBM has always been a target. 5- I have no idea, but i hope it's not IBM. 6- No idea! 7- I hope not. Needless to say that if i find a project that answers those questions better, i'm switching. |
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Sgt.Joe
Ace Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 4, 2006 Post Count: 7846 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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5- Who owns the results of the computation? 6- Will they be freely available? 7- Will they belong to a company? #5 All results will be in the public domain #6 If they are in the public domain, I believe they should be free. However, If a person would want the results sent to them they may need to pay for the means to get the data. After all, these projects are generating terabytes of data. For example,CEP2 maintains a database of results which are, as far as I know, available to anyone. #7 Presumably any company can use the results because they will be in the public domain, but no company can exclusively "own" the results. See here:https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/help/viewTopic.do?shortName=aboutwcg And here:http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/research/viewSubmitAProposal.do Cheers
Sgt. Joe
*Minnesota Crunchers* |
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Seoulpowergrid
Veteran Cruncher Joined: Apr 12, 2013 Post Count: 823 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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3- Has the project published results in peer-reviewed journals or conferences?
----------------------------------------A poorly updated list is here (link) but the best page is their News page (link) and then search by Research Paper or Project Update among others. 5- Who owns the results of the computation? 6- Will they be freely available? Well off the top of my head Clean Energy Project has their data available here (link) and Fight AIDS at Home (link) has the statement "Results of these FightAIDS@Home experiments... are available to the public upon request. ... the amount of data is on the order of many terabytes..."  |
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gb009761
Master Cruncher Scotland Joined: Apr 6, 2005 Post Count: 3010 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Cogito Ergo Sum, one of the many conditions of a project being run on WCG, is that the results will be freely available to anyone who wants them - i.e., they'll be in the public domain.
----------------------------------------As to the security, yes, you're right, IBM is a major target - although due to their size, they also have top notch people who work for them (I know - I used to be an employee, so I had the privilege of working alongside many of them), who strive to make WCG as secure as possible. This extends to checking all the code that runs on WCG and compiling it themselves so as to ensure that 'nothing untoward' sneaks in via that route.  |
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Former Member
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Thanks everyone
I just think the information should have been more readily available, so as to convince other BOINC users to work with the WCG. |
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KLiK
Master Cruncher Croatia Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Post Count: 3108 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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well, some of these questions have been asked in this topic here:
----------------------------------------https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread_thread,38423  & it got a lot of attention...so it's nice to see that someone else also asks that question (& think with their head)... just keep crunching & keep asking for more transparency!  |
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cjslman
Master Cruncher Mexico Joined: Nov 23, 2004 Post Count: 2082 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Needless to say that if i find a project that answers those questions better, i'm switching. It seems you are not satisfied with WCG. If you really are interested in getting answers to your questions, why not just ask your questions and doubts: why threaten to leave if you "find a project that answers those questions better" ? Here is a link that will probably answer some/many of your questions: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/research/viewAllProjects.do. There may be other links in those research pages that answer other of your questions. One of your questions caught my attention: 2- Are these goals important and beneficial? Maybe I'm not catching the meaning of the question, but looking for cures for cancer, AIDS, Ebola, etc, seem obviously very important and beneficial.CJSL Crunching for a brighter future... |
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jhindo
Former World Community Grid Admin Joined: Aug 25, 2009 Post Count: 250 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Yes, the replies here are correct, our research partners have published over 30 peer-reviewed papers in prestigious scientific journals, detailing both actual scientific results as well as improvements to research techniques.
And yes, the output data generated by World Community Grid volunteers is made publicly available by our research partners. This is a requirement of running research on World Community Grid and our research partners have met that requirement in various ways: from announcing the availability of the data to anyone who wants it, to building public databases (like the one Harvard has) housing the data. But your point Cogito Ergo Sum is well taken - that the answers to such questions should be easier to find. Will keep your feedback in mind, thanks! |
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