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Re: No tasks available?

Keith,

Aren't you located in Austin? The Tivoli group is located on the campus there off Burnet Rd. (or at least they used to be about 2 years ago). I don't remember exactly what building they are in and by now they have probably moved around. As far as disk storage, my guess is, you don't need the latest and greatest that is coming off the assembly line (like the Flash system 840 or a DS8800). One V7000 could give you 1.5PB of storage (more if you cluster it). So, when they refresh what they have in the hosting/Business Continuance centers, why can't the older stuff be rerouted to WCG. What about stuff they don't need any longer in the bringUp/certification labs? What about storage that has been returned from customers for various reasons? Seems it could be refurbished/re-certified in Tuscon and then sent to WCG. What are they going to do with that stuff? Can't sell it as new and it remains an IBM asset. If WCG terminates, IBM still owns the assets, not like you're giving it away. I know, there are technicians and then there are bean counters. Just seems like there could be more than one way to tackle this problem with a little creativity.
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IIRC, there was also the scientists, the end users side to the story, bandwidth and ad hoc storage. WCG could maybe pump out and take in much more, but the owners can't.
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Re: No tasks available?

Keith,

Aren't you located in Austin? The Tivoli group is located on the campus there off Burnet Rd. (or at least they used to be about 2 years ago). I don't remember exactly what building they are in and by now they have probably moved around. As far as disk storage, my guess is, you don't need the latest and greatest that is coming off the assembly line (like the Flash system 840 or a DS8800). One V7000 could give you 1.5PB of storage (more if you cluster it). So, when they refresh what they have in the hosting/Business Continuance centers, why can't the older stuff be rerouted to WCG. What about stuff they don't need any longer in the bringUp/certification labs? What about storage that has been returned from customers for various reasons? Seems it could be refurbished/re-certified in Tuscon and then sent to WCG. What are they going to do with that stuff? Can't sell it as new and it remains an IBM asset. If WCG terminates, IBM still owns the assets, not like you're giving it away. I know, there are technicians and then there are bean counters. Just seems like there could be more than one way to tackle this problem with a little creativity.


Doneske,

Everything has a cost unfortunately. We are given a budget every year to work within, this includes hosting, bandwidth and salaries. Our hosting is done in one of IBM's hosting facilities that is secure to the point that even I can't get into the building to check out our servers. Our hosting costs us the same as if you were to try and get them from a hosting service. Our servers are not considered co-located, but more along the lines of fully managed rented servers. The hosting environment we have does have monitors in place for hardware failures and they have spare parts so they can replace say a bad hard drive quickly.

On the side of putting older servers to use, I do that for our testing machines were it does not have to be in a fully managed environment. I usually find groups that are upgrading their hardware and see if what they have is of value and they sit in a lab in Austin. If one of these machines dies, usually they are well past their prime by that point and they get retired for good. I try to get machines that are about 2-3 years old and my experience so far has been many of these IBM servers have lasted over 10 years :) talk about a solid machine. So I do try to re-purpose machines when I can, but large storage devices for my test lab does not make sense, as mostly the machines are used for running alpha tests.

As for the Tivoli group, they were in building 101 a few years ago, I'm not sure if they are still there. I actually work mostly from home in the Dallas/Fort Worth area, but do travel down the Austin semi regularly. My comments about not being familiar with the product would require me to review some material.

The problem with UGM not running faster is just a combination of things to have the grid run efficiently. If we were able to push the results to the researchers with enough speed, then the project would run faster. If we had LOTS more storage, we could run the project faster as well and just store the results on our servers and send back over time.

IBM is basically donating all of our team's time and physical resources towards having WCG run smoothly, but some accounting needs to be done so that value is quantified. Thus why we are given a budget to stay within.

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Thanks uplinger for such interesting info! :-)
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I second that. Very interesting behind the scenes information you've provided.
Thanks alot.
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