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Re: running FAH on windows 7 64 bit

Currently my AIDS tasks finish under 40 minutes on my AMD A8-6500 3.5 GHZ under Linux 64-bit.

I would think that the A8-6500 is comparable to my i5-3550, which has 4 cores running at 3.3 GHz (not overclocked). My last work unit under Win7 64-bit:
World Community Grid	7.32 FightAIDS@Home - Vina FAHV_x2NMZ_A_PRAS_0973734_2284_1	00:32:58 

The longest time I see is 42:19, and the shortest is 27:06, covering a period of the last 5 days.
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Re: running FAH on windows 7 64 bit

Falconet and SekeRob's claim is substantiated by the WUProp data found here: http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/results/projet.py?...ore+i5&gpu_family=all

And while there's no i5-3550 data for both Linux and Win, there's an i5-3470 which ranges a min of 0.2 hours to a max of 0.2 hours under 64-bit Linux. Compare that with the range of 0.3 hours - 0.5 hours under 64-bit Win. The story seems the same up and down the chart.
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Re: running FAH on windows 7 64 bit

Yes, I think there is a difference. But if you look at the Linux 64-bit data, it is 0.2 (0.2 - 0.2), so that the min is the same as the max. That means that they don't have very much data. Also, Linux machines are often dedicated, whereas Windows machines are more general purpose and do games, etc. I don't believe the OS difference is as large as has been quoted here.
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Re: running FAH on windows 7 64 bit

Your CPU is probably very significantly faster than mine.

According to this http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/cpu_list.php

A8-6500 has 2.73 Gigaflops per core while i5-3550 has 3.79

Also, I found this i5-3550 - http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/show_host_detail.php?hostid=38345

My old W7 A8-6500 - http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/show_host_detail.php?hostid=55007

A noticeable difference in integer and floating point figures.

Install Linux x64 in one of your machines and then compare the difference.

To me, the difference is huge.


I do believe that since today tasks are a bit smaller since I have 4 right now that are upwards of 75% complete and at 23 CPU minutes.
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- AMD Ryzen 5 1600AF 6C/12T 3.2 GHz - 85W
- AMD Ryzen 5 2500U 4C/8T 2.0 GHz - 28W
- AMD Ryzen 7 7730U 8C/16T 3.0 GHz
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Re: running FAH on windows 7 64 bit

OK, I have not looked at the CPU difference. Also, the size of the cache will make a difference. I would think that the Intel chips are more optimized for Windows, and the AMD may be more optimized for Linux, since that seems to be their user base.

EDIT: I just ran the BOINC benchmarks on mine, and got:
4/8/2015 2:25:43 PM 4058 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
4/8/2015 2:25:43 PM 11589 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU

The integer speed is probably more relevant, and runs about 23% faster than the 9435.72 million ops/sec for the AMD A8-6500. It seems that the time for crunching the Vina work units is not much different between the two, so the advantage of Linux would look to me to be about 25 to 30%. The problem is doing the comparison between the OS's on the same chip, which is not often done.
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Re: running FAH on windows 7 64 bit

Hi there. If I am in the middle of a task on the 32 bit operating system, and I upgrade to a 64 bit operating system, is there any trick I can do to resume the task in 64 bit mode?
If i try to resume the task on windows 7 64 bit, it runs using the x86 instructions instead of the 64 bit instructions.
Thanks.
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Re: running FAH on windows 7 64 bit

Nope, your 64 bit Windows will finish the 32 bit task in 32 bit.

A matter of advise would be to run the computer dry before upgrading.

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Re: running FAH on windows 7 64 bit

that's a real shame. I really wanted to test the same work unit running on x86 vs. x64, just to see how long it would take on x64 and then compare the results.
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Re: running FAH on windows 7 64 bit

Well documented on the forums... 4 to 8 % faster on W64 with 64 bit science app.
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