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Thread: HPF progress on WCG from ISB: beyond the acronyms |
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Sekerob
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Its curious how more balanced the agent community at HPF is versus the Rosetta group....will these HPF2's be on line by say mid October. As per an equation i did in an other thread on this forum, mid October, HPF1 should be done....
----------------------------------------from pure despair, at UD they had people process dummy data not to loose them, well maybe applied psychology, but to me highly unethical, one whiff of this at WCG and i will leave faster than switching over from UD. But, i trust here at the IBM supported project we wont see these core value breaching events. Curiously, the use of this free database, will that stop the pharmasutical corporations to patent products based on these datasets....sure we dont want to add medicine that no palin sole can afford....health for the rich? thanks
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Former Member
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Always nice to see threats bookended with optimism. Followed by pessimism.
The way it work is that once the results are in the public domain, any company can use them to make anything they want. If they happen to be able to get a patent on that, that's just the way it goes. IBM and ISB don't have any control over that. If that is enough to make you quit crunching, that seems pretty selfish and/or hypocritical. Sure, a company is going to make money off a cure for something... but would you rather not have a cure at all?? |
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 It is one thing that I know for fact , there may be a company that may take advantage of this research and get even richer , but i do know that if that research were done by a private company they would have to paid a price for the info , so if there is already a point system in place a contribution from those enterprises to this groups could be a good incentive for us to devote more computing time and power to this projects , if they make profits from it I am sure it will be cheaper for this companies to , give some incentives to us than paying private research groups to do this job. |
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Former Member
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It is one thing that I know for fact , there may be a company that may take advantage of this research and get even richer , but i do know that if that research were done by a private company they would have to paid a price for the info , so if there is already a point system in place a contribution from those enterprises to this groups could be a good incentive for us to devote more computing time and power to this projects , if they make profits from it I am sure it will be cheaper for this companies to , give some incentives to us than paying private research groups to do this job.I would doubt that a private reasearch group could afford what is now being freely by the members of WCG--My wife is dying from cancer and i would pay any price to save her or anyone else for that matter |
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Former Member
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It is one thing that I know for fact , there may be a company that may take advantage of this research and get even richer , but i do know that if that research were done by a private company they would have to paid a price for the info , so if there is already a point system in place a contribution from those enterprises to this groups could be a good incentive for us to devote more computing time and power to this projects , if they make profits from it I am sure it will be cheaper for this companies to , give some incentives to us than paying private research groups to do this job.For those large enterprises, they can injet resources to generate these results anyway. I think our efforts can put those comparatively smaller companies on a more equal footing and create a fairer environment for market competition. |
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Former Member
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The point is not "Who will make money from this?". The point is "How many lives will be extended or suffering alleviated because of what we do here today?".
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The point is not "Who will make money from this?". The point is "How many lives will be extended or suffering alleviated because of what we do here today?". Well said |
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The Hawk
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The husband of my wife's cousin died a little over a week ago due to incurable illness. If some company had been able to provide us with a cure for what was wrong with him, we'd all have willingly become bankrupt to pay for it. Who cares about the cost? Who cares if a company makes money? Isn't that what businessmen are in business to do? It's people, human beings with families that matter.
----------------------------------------Let's just concentrate on getting this project completed guys, then move on to the next. At the end of it all, someone may benefit from it all. |
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It needs to be done, it can be done, we are doing it.
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Also, the World Community Grid is providing medical researchers with fairly basic scientific information. Companies will have to do quite a bit of work to turn knowledge about these proteins into a product. Of course price matters, but if companies lose the ability to patent drugs they simply won't use the data. Patents don't last forever and if the project speeds up innovation, it will also move forward the date on which the cures for AIDS and cancer come off patent.
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