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Building a new comp - Xeon ES. Advice please

Hi,
It's come to that time of year where I think about upgrading my crunching hardware and I've priced up a system based around an i7- 4790K as being the most cost effective over a 3 year period.

However, having perused the boards over the years, people have been talking about using Xeon Engineering samples as the basis of a crunching machine. I know that there is a difference between consumer grade hardware and the server hardware required for this but I don't know what is what.

If I go down this road, the computer will not be used for gaming, nor will it be overclocked. Aside from crunching, I'll be downloading, watching movies and doing the usual officework and browsing.

It's going to be major investment cash wise, but if the returns are much better than the 4790K, then I may put my money where my mouth is.

Here is what I am thinking...

I am currently looking at a E5-2680v3 ES chip.
What do I need to think about?

Motherboard - LGA2011v3 socket? Will any motherboard do or do I need to go for a certain type? I had a quick look at motherboard CPU compatibility and it looked good.
Memory - Needs to be DDR4 ECC right? As this is a 12c/24T processor, how much is best? Bearing in mind that I don't run anything too intensive on my computer.
Software - Windows 7/8 is fine isn't it? Thinking of maybe doing a linux dual boot for the times that I am away from the computer..

PSU, case, GPU and everything else should be the same as a normal build right?

I've also heard about dual socket motherboards and even quad socket ones. This may interest me too. However, do you need to have the same chip in each socket? Or can I use different LGA-v3 chips. Say the 2680v3 and and a 2687W-v3?
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Re: Building a new comp - Xeon ES. Advice please

For a single socket I think that choice of MB could be less critical but whichever you get including dual socket, having the right bios to run the cpu's is key. furthermore there have been instances where installing a later bios stops the use of ES cpu's.

for ram I try to go for min of 1GB per thread although for just crunching it will work with less if you steer clear of CEP wu's

Win7 works. Win10 probably works unless you use the 18core cpu's. Ubuntu derivatives are better at Vina projects than Windows in fact just great across the board.

PSU, case etc are normal.

Dual socket: Everything I have read suggests the same cpu is installed in each socket in fact during the SB era it was even mooted that these had to be the same stepping too. The cost of testing this is beyond me but I run 2 dual E5-26xx rigs together with a single and a E5-26xxv2
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Re: Building a new comp - Xeon ES. Advice please

Thanks for the reply OldChap,
I think a single socket solution will be the easiest way to go, but the dual still intrigues me.
I'm currently looking at this board and i'm a little confused.
http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/C600/X10DRL-i.cfm

When it says
(up to 145W TDP **)
** Motherboard supports this maximum TDP. Please verify your system can thermally support.

Is the 145W per cpu or between both of them?
I'm assuming that this is per cpu, so if i get the 2x E5-2680v3 rated at 120w, I should be fine.
Even looking at their brochure doesn't specifically say 145w per chip. Just "supports CPU TDP up to 145w".
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