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Thread: CEP2 Issues update Aug 7, 1014 |
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armstrdj
Former World Community Grid Tech Joined: Oct 21, 2004 Post Count: 695 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Earlier in the week there were new CEP2 workunits that began being sent out and were inappropriately be marked as errors by the validator. The validator was updated to resolve this issue. We then set CEP2 to re-validate these workunits to correct the issue. This also caused any older workunits with errors to be re-validated and show up as errors again. The CEP2 Workunits following a naming convention with a batch number being at the front like E<batchnumber>... The new workunits start at batch number 225001 and higher. Any workunits with a lower batch number than this and marked in error are more than likely work unit issues and since we did the re-validation it looks like the error rate for them is higher than it actually is.
Any issues being seen now with the new workunits, batch number 225001 and higher, are workunit issues. It looks like there is a higher than expected percentage of these new workunits resulting in errors. We are investigating these issues and will work to make the batches cleaner to limit the number of these being sent out. Sorry for the confusion and thanks for everyone's patience while we investigate. Thanks, armstrdj |
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Former Member
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The validation issues didn't show up when the Beta units were validated?
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Former Member
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Thanks for the update.
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armstrdj
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We have identiified the issues with the new workunits and it will require some changes to the input files. We have stopped loading any new CEP2 workunits while we rebuild the effected workunits. The current supply of new workunits will probably run out sometime over the weekend and then only resends will be going out until we begin loading new work again. We will do what we can to minimize the downtime.
Thanks, armstrdj |
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Crystal Pellet
Veteran Cruncher Joined: May 21, 2008 Post Count: 1412 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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I have 3 of this new work units 225xxx running and following the explanation of the Harvard CEP Team about the new sequence of the 8 jobs
Job 0: Geometry optimisation of the molecule using DFT and a medium basis set. This produces the geometry on which all of the other calculations rely and so is the most important job. . . After the initial optimisation,the jobs get more computationally intense as you progress through the work unit. I did not expect job 0 is running that long. 3.5 hours and not yet checkpointed for the first time, so still busy with job 0. Is this expected or something wrong? |
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Former Member
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Okay so I ran W.U.
----------------------------------------E225091_ 125_ S.310.C41H29N5.CIBYYAZXCXNKQB-UHFFFAOYSA-N.1_ s1_ 14_ 0 Set to run only once I spent 20.48hr for 17.63hr of comp time it completed all 8 jobs and came up as error. It was then sent out again to two more computers. So are my 17.63 hr and my 396.7 points just gone? I'll keep tabs on this one trust that. ALSO what's going on with the points when one W.U. is validated with 2 computers sometimes you average some times you allow the higher score sometimes the lowest..... Why don't you just give each one what they earned and be done with it?? Please be consistent, so we know what to expect or just grant the points claimed please. [Edit 3 times, last edit by Former Member at Aug 9, 2014 4:09:53 PM] |
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Crystal Pellet
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ALSO what's going on with the points when one W.U. is validated with 2 computers sometimes you average some times you allow the higher score sometimes the lowest..... Why don't you just give each one what they earned and be done with it?? Please be consistent, so we know what to expect or just grant the points claimed please. Hi Bob, That's exactly what's done. The difference between 2 results is that one machine has calculated more jobs than the other. Have a look to the result details. You'll see that the one with the higher points have done more jobs during the task. The points are calculated taken into effect both claims and the number of jobs done. I already explained the right formula somewhere on the forum long ago. |
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armstrdj
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All existing new workunits have been sent out now and only resends will be available. Once we get things cleaned up behind the scenes we will begin sending out new workunits again. Thanks again for everyones patience.
Thanks, armstrdj |
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Former Member
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just give each one what they earned and be done with it?? Please be consistent, so we know what to expect or just grant the points claimed please. Hi Bob, That's exactly what's done. The difference between 2 results is that one machine has calculated more jobs than the other. Have a look to the result details. You'll see that the one with the higher points have done more jobs during the task. The points are calculated taken into effect both claims and the number of jobs done. I already explained the right formula somewhere on the forum long ago. Now that I have no valid work units on my on my results page, (anyone want to guess why??) to argue this I have to yield for now, however I do hope your not confusing my start date for ignorance. I was one of the first 200 people to join SETI when it started on BOINC, not my first Rodeo. Besides I'm not talking about what jobs are done in anyone work unit I'm talking about total points granted for any one completed whole work unit validated by two computers as seen in the results page. In three work units say I spent twice as long as the other guy I claim 200 points and she/he claims 100 (REMEMBER WE'RE PRETENDING HERE K?? ) I have seen she/he and I get WU#1 150 150 WU#2 100 100 WU#3 200 200 My question is why play with the numbers at all just grant the claimed points and be done. [Edit 4 times, last edit by Former Member at Aug 9, 2014 10:28:27 PM] |
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Mike.Gibson
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I have a reasonable cache of earlier and later numbers. Should I abort the later ones?
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