With 30+ years and approaching 50mill wcg points on FA@H I will take a punt and say that ripple people have noticed the huge disparity in points per hour of runtime across the projects In the same way that I did.

The Vina version of FA@H is great for Linux rigs running Intel and, I don't remember where I read it, there was something about AMD Machines liking Autodock work from a points perspective.

FA@H has chosen not to separate the two, has chosen to build in a way that breaks some of the Boinc config settings and has left the volunteer with little choice but to abort certain wu's in the quest for maximum points

In general the Points claimed part of things is broken just now. I have had instances of same project, same series wu's, same machine, same runtime claiming as much as 300% different so for those chasing points, for whatever reason, it can be an uphill battle.

It would seem that the project cannot adjust for the use of app_config files used locally therefore over a certain amount of time unwanted work types will still build up on any given machine only to be sent back.

With all of this in mind, I am not at all surprised that you are seeing so many "user aborted" wu's. The mercenary users together with those like me who take the position that as a volunteer I get to choose what work I do, are left with little or no choice in the matter.

As for why you don't see the same with MCM etc..... My experience is that the user gets only half the points when not choosing the project best optimised for their hardware. FA@H "pays" better than the others.

Even if it only starts out on one project a new system would give us hope.

Hope for me just means some consistency. The ability to use points as a metric for machine performance would be better still.

There are some longer ones coming Joe (11 hours on 2.4 xeon e5). Points are less than stellar with these here.

@OldChap ('Hi' again): The reason I checked my FA@H Results status pages was to see whether it was evident that mainly AutoDock (faah) WUs are being aborted, and not so many VINA (FAHV) ones. I'm sure that there are some members who are crunching FA@H under Linux and are aborting the AutoDock WUs in order to gain about 50% more points, but this effect is masked by the huge number of FAHV WUs that are also being aborted.

I also don't think that large numbers of new members (eg from Ripple) would have the knowledge or patience to check their rates of points generation from the various WCG projects. However, they might be checking the set of projects that is the default allocated when they sign up on Ripple for WCG , and are deleting FA@H because of HOMOPHOBIA.

I would point out to these people that AutoDock and VINA, the software developed to screen for drugs to block HIV, is being used by many other researchers around the world to screen for drugs to fight other diseases too. The software is in the public domain, and many if not most of the researchers using it are doing so outside WCG. Inside WCG, the Help Fight Childhood Cancer project scientists have just announced that AutoDock has found 7 compounds that are extremely promising candidates as drugs to block neuroblastoma, the most prevalent cancer in infants. Furthermore, their approach is probably applicable to blocking many adult cancers, including those of the breast, lung, pancreas, prostate, and colon.

By saying "we hope you die" to the millions of people around the world with HIV, including victims of rape, the people who are saying "no" to FA@H are also saying "we hope you die" to kids with cancer, and to people with other diseases.

I am reminded of the description used for people he deemed to be not very nice, by that occasional master of succinct truthful descriptions, ex-Australian Prime Minister Paul Keating: SCUMBAGS!

BTW: Have you noticed that there's "something" missing from the WCG forum? Wouldn't you have expected Someone With Amazing Knowledge of How WCG Works to have chimed in here and in many other threads where there are recently-asked questions that could be answered better? Rob is MIA

With 7,200 active members at ripple the odds are in favour of a small percentage able to read up and find those automated methods of aborting work. I had not thought of it before but I suppose I must also accept that there are enough folks out there that still only associate Aids/Hiv with homosexuality.

Rick, I must agree with you when you stated in another conversation that more resources are used when re-sends are invoked and that is a waste but in view of the additional horsepower that has become available since the advent of the ripple team we should perhaps ignore the fact