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jonathandl
Advanced Cruncher Joined: Nov 12, 2007 Post Count: 106 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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A few months ago my Yahoo account got hacked, and out of an abundance of caution I reformatted my computer and reinstalled the operating system (Mac OS 10.4.11 "Tiger.") Just about a week ago I resumed crunching WCG, but much to my surprise, all of my results came back either with computation errors (FAAH) or invalid (SN2S).
Here's a copy of the result from my last SN2S job: Result Name: SN2S_ 3FPU_ 0000275_ 0705_ 0-- <core_client_version>6.10.58</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <stderr_txt> INFO: No state to restore. Start from the beginning. [15:36:29] Number of tasks = 8 [15:36:29] Starting task 0,CPU time is 0.000000. [15:36:29] ./ZINC31903557.pdbqt size = 29 5 ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/sn2s.target_3FPU.pdbqt size = 1308 0 [16:05:46] Finished task #0 cpu time used 752.003050 [16:05:46] Starting task 1,CPU time is 752.003050. [16:05:46] ./ZINC31903557.pdbqt size = 29 5 ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/sn2s.target_3FPU.pdbqt size = 1308 0 Quit requested: Exiting [16:27:25] Number of tasks = 8 [16:27:25] Starting task 1,CPU time is 752.003050. [16:27:25] ./ZINC31903557.pdbqt size = 29 5 ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/sn2s.target_3FPU.pdbqt size = 1308 0 [16:52:35] Finished task #1 cpu time used 749.071775 [16:52:35] Starting task 2,CPU time is 1501.074825. [16:52:35] ./ZINC31903557.pdbqt size = 29 5 ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/sn2s.target_3FPU.pdbqt size = 1308 0 [17:17:35] Finished task #2 cpu time used 746.086990 [17:17:35] Starting task 3,CPU time is 2247.161815. [17:17:35] ./ZINC31903557.pdbqt size = 29 5 ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/sn2s.target_3FPU.pdbqt size = 1308 0 [17:44:05] Finished task #3 cpu time used 749.037805 [17:44:05] Starting task 4,CPU time is 2996.199620. [17:44:05] ./ZINC31903558_1.pdbqt size = 30 5 ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/sn2s.target_3FPU.pdbqt size = 1308 0 Quit requested: Exiting [17:46:05] Number of tasks = 8 [17:46:05] Starting task 4,CPU time is 2996.199620. [17:46:05] ./ZINC31903558_1.pdbqt size = 30 5 ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/sn2s.target_3FPU.pdbqt size = 1308 0 [18:08:16] Finished task #4 cpu time used 761.207180 [18:08:16] Starting task 5,CPU time is 3757.406800. [18:08:16] ./ZINC31903558_1.pdbqt size = 30 5 ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/sn2s.target_3FPU.pdbqt size = 1308 0 [18:30:31] Finished task #5 cpu time used 762.813688 [18:30:31] Starting task 6,CPU time is 4520.220488. [18:30:31] ./ZINC31903558_1.pdbqt size = 30 5 ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/sn2s.target_3FPU.pdbqt size = 1308 0 [18:51:59] Finished task #6 cpu time used 761.195309 [18:51:59] Starting task 7,CPU time is 5281.415797. [18:52:00] ./ZINC31903558_1.pdbqt size = 30 5 ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/sn2s.target_3FPU.pdbqt size = 1308 0 [19:13:25] Finished task #7 cpu time used 761.547300 called boinc_finish </stderr_txt> ]]> Unfortunately, only the most recent result file is still on your website, but here's an excerpt from my stdoutdae.txt file: 10-Sep-2013 01:47:04 [World Community Grid] Computation for task SN2S_3FPU_00002 75_0726_0 finished 10-Sep-2013 01:47:04 [World Community Grid] Starting faah102115_ZINC02170022_xPR _wC6_11_1ref9FH_00_0 10-Sep-2013 01:47:04 [World Community Grid] Starting task faah102115_ZINC0217002 2_xPR_wC6_11_1ref9FH_00_0 using faah version 715 10-Sep-2013 01:47:05 [World Community Grid] Computation for task faah102115_ZINC 02170022_xPR_wC6_11_1ref9FH_00_0 finished 10-Sep-2013 01:47:05 [World Community Grid] Output file faah102115_ZINC02170022_ xPR_wC6_11_1ref9FH_00_0_0 for task faah102115_ZINC02170022_xPR_wC6_11_1ref9FH_00 _0 absent 10-Sep-2013 01:47:05 [World Community Grid] Output file faah102115_ZINC02170022_ xPR_wC6_11_1ref9FH_00_0_1 for task faah102115_ZINC02170022_xPR_wC6_11_1ref9FH_00 _0 absent 10-Sep-2013 01:47:05 [World Community Grid] Starting faah102115_ZINC02169989_xPR _wC6_11_1ref9FH_00_0 10-Sep-2013 01:47:06 [World Community Grid] Starting task faah102115_ZINC0216998 9_xPR_wC6_11_1ref9FH_00_0 using faah version 715 10-Sep-2013 01:47:07 [World Community Grid] Started upload of SN2S_3FPU_0000275_ 0726_0_0 10-Sep-2013 01:47:07 [World Community Grid] Computation for task faah102115_ZINC 02169989_xPR_wC6_11_1ref9FH_00_0 finished 10-Sep-2013 01:47:07 [World Community Grid] Output file faah102115_ZINC02169989_ xPR_wC6_11_1ref9FH_00_0_0 for task faah102115_ZINC02169989_xPR_wC6_11_1ref9FH_00 _0 absent 10-Sep-2013 01:47:07 [World Community Grid] Output file faah102115_ZINC02169989_ xPR_wC6_11_1ref9FH_00_0_1 for task faah102115_ZINC02169989_xPR_wC6_11_1ref9FH_00 _0 absent |
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Hello jonathandl,
Computation errors point to a problem with the project code (requiring complete download of projects) or a memory problem. I would start by reducing the number of threads running to see if small memory usage made a difference, then I would uninstall and re-install BOINC from https://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php/ to see if that made a difference. Lawrence |
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jonathandl
Advanced Cruncher Joined: Nov 12, 2007 Post Count: 106 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I normally have BOINC set to allow usage of up to 75% of RAM if the computer is in use, or up to 80% of RAM if the computer is idle. I see no setting for the number of threads (where is it?) but I decided to clear the preferences (which should reset my computer's preferences to whatever the Web-based settings are), and then reset the project (clicked "Reset project" in the BOINC client – I used to do this all the time
 , but just realized that the current situation is one that actually merits this!)FAAH still fails: <core_client_version>6.10.58</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <message> process got signal 5 </message> <stderr_txt> dyld: unknown required load command 0x80000022 </stderr_txt> ]]> As for schisto., I think that one job turned up valid after I Reset Project, and the other one went into Pending Verification and got issued to another user, then disappeared from the Results Status before I could see whether it validated. |
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Former Member
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Your error signal 5 is rare, both on Google [from 2004] and here. A past [lone] thread suggests the combination of OS version, BOINC version and application causes the error to appear from "Unrecoverable error": http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/...ad,31005_offset,10#317139
'absent...' may hint at a permissions problem. Have no Mac, but understand that users need to be added to the BOINC group. Don't know if that rings a bell. The number of threads/concurrent jobs is controlled by way of a percent of processors. E.g. 25% on a quad is 1 core, but on an octo is 2. |
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jonathandl
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I only have one processor. In any case I just got another faah task fail:
----------------------------------------Result Name: faah383523_ ZINC13115476_ 1_ x4GVMaINleA_ 00_ 0-- <core_client_version>6.10.58</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <message> process got signal 5 </message> <stderr_txt> dyld: unknown required load command 0x80000022 </stderr_txt> ]]> Is there a way to look up that task and see what went wrong? Also, here are the relevant lines from my log: Mon Dec 16 12:09:55 2013 World Community Grid Resetting project Mon Dec 16 12:10:01 2013 Suspending computation - CPU usage is too high Mon Dec 16 12:10:09 2013 World Community Grid update requested by user Mon Dec 16 12:10:12 2013 World Community Grid Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Mon Dec 16 12:10:12 2013 World Community Grid Requesting new tasks Mon Dec 16 12:10:14 2013 World Community Grid Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks Mon Dec 16 12:10:16 2013 World Community Grid Started download of wcgrid_faah_7.15_i686-apple-darwin Mon Dec 16 12:10:16 2013 World Community Grid Started download of wcgrid_faah_graphics_prod_darwin_32.x86.7.15 Mon Dec 16 12:10:18 2013 World Community Grid Finished download of wcgrid_faah_7.15_i686-apple-darwin Mon Dec 16 12:10:18 2013 World Community Grid Finished download of wcgrid_faah_graphics_prod_darwin_32.x86.7.15 .... Mon Dec 16 12:10:40 2013 World Community Grid Starting faah383523_ZINC13115476_1_x4GVMaINleA_00_0 Mon Dec 16 12:10:41 2013 World Community Grid Starting task faah383523_ZINC13115476_1_x4GVMaINleA_00_0 using faah version 715 Mon Dec 16 12:10:42 2013 World Community Grid Computation for task faah383523_ZINC13115476_1_x4GVMaINleA_00_0 finished Mon Dec 16 12:10:42 2013 World Community Grid Output file faah383523_ZINC13115476_1_x4GVMaINleA_00_0_0 for task faah383523_ZINC13115476_1_x4GVMaINleA_00_0 absent Mon Dec 16 12:10:42 2013 World Community Grid Output file faah383523_ZINC13115476_1_x4GVMaINleA_00_0_1 for task faah383523_ZINC13115476_1_x4GVMaINleA_00_0 absent Mon Dec 16 12:11:00 2013 World Community Grid Resetting project Mon Dec 16 12:11:02 2013 World Community Grid Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Mon Dec 16 12:11:02 2013 World Community Grid Requesting new tasks Mon Dec 16 12:11:03 2013 World Community Grid Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks Mon Dec 16 12:11:03 2013 World Community Grid Message from server: Resent lost task faah383523_ZINC13115476_1_x4GVMaINleA_00_0 Mon Dec 16 12:11:05 2013 World Community Grid Started download of wcgrid_faah_7.15_i686-apple-darwin Mon Dec 16 12:11:05 2013 World Community Grid Started download of wcgrid_faah_graphics_prod_darwin_32.x86.7.15 Mon Dec 16 12:11:07 2013 World Community Grid Finished download of wcgrid_faah_7.15_i686-apple-darwin Mon Dec 16 12:11:07 2013 World Community Grid Finished download of wcgrid_faah_graphics_prod_darwin_32.x86.7.15 .... Mon Dec 16 12:11:28 2013 World Community Grid Starting faah383523_ZINC13115476_1_x4GVMaINleA_00_0 Mon Dec 16 12:11:28 2013 World Community Grid Starting task faah383523_ZINC13115476_1_x4GVMaINleA_00_0 using faah version 715 Mon Dec 16 12:11:29 2013 World Community Grid Computation for task faah383523_ZINC13115476_1_x4GVMaINleA_00_0 finished Mon Dec 16 12:11:29 2013 World Community Grid Output file faah383523_ZINC13115476_1_x4GVMaINleA_00_0_0 for task faah383523_ZINC13115476_1_x4GVMaINleA_00_0 absent Mon Dec 16 12:11:29 2013 World Community Grid Output file faah383523_ZINC13115476_1_x4GVMaINleA_00_0_1 for task faah383523_ZINC13115476_1_x4GVMaINleA_00_0 absent Right now there are no schisto. jobs but, like I said in my earlier post, ever since reinstalling the OS, more than 50% of them came back "invalid." [Edit 1 times, last edit by jonathandl at Dec 16, 2013 5:27:17 PM] |
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WCG just expanded the support for the new MCM science to 10.5.x, but that's where the limit has been set so it seems [Intel only]. You are running probably the only remaining science that supports 10.4.
Not giving up too quickly, did a search with the problem code of your last report and found this: http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/runn...yld-unknown-required-load http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/runn...yld-unknown-required-load Reads like the only way to fix this would be to recompile the science app. You say the problem started after reinstalling the OS which would imply some library is missing that faah needs [32 bit?]... really tapping in the dark on this. Jonathan, it may sound harsh, but 1 core using how many watts? My new one takes 13.5 watts/hour compared to the old [just retired], that took 40 watts/core for a total 160 W/h. At the power prices here, the new machine is paid for in about 5 years with a life expectancy which I would not rate less than the old, 8 years, at 24/7. |
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jonathandl
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How do I determine the wattage? Anyway, when I reinstalled the OS (because right after I installed 10.6.8, my Yahoo account got hacked), I also downgraded from 10.6.8 to 10.4.11. (Safari in Mac OS 10.6.8 is really slow on my single-core machine.)
----------------------------------------I only had 10.6.8 installed for a few days, so this shouldn't have made much difference. In summary, then, 10.4.11 worked just fine before. [Edit 4 times, last edit by jonathandl at Dec 16, 2013 8:06:05 PM] |
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Sgt.Joe
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How do I determine the wattage? You need a meter like the Kill-O-Watt. Just plug the meter into the wall and plug you computer into the meter. Or if you own an amp meter, you can calculate the wattage from the amperage being used. Cheers
Sgt. Joe
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jonathandl
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On 09/20/2013, SekeRob wrote:
Have no Mac, but understand that users need to be added to the BOINC group. I had the permissions problem before; if the user is not in the BOINC group then BOINC fails to launch at all. But that has long since been fixed  On 12/16/2013, you wrote: You are running probably the only remaining science that supports 10.4. Which science project is the one that supports 10.4.11? The system requirements page doesn't mention OS versions. |
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The poster has not been seen in months. On the groups, the latest clients do not require this manual addition stuff unless boinc is installed as service. BOINC groups will only be created when running the agent as service.
On the os version, my guess is a reference is made to the faah application being very old and thus having legacy support. |
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