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Re: CPU Temps: When "hot" is "too hot".

mycrofth, thanks for the links! I have found the correct threshold for my AMD Athlon 64 3500+. It is 65C. Somewhat surprised as I thought it was 70C.

I have my Asus probe correctly set now.
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Re: CPU Temps: When "hot" is "too hot".

mycrofth, thanks for the links! I have found the correct threshold for my AMD Athlon 64 3500+. It is 65C. Somewhat surprised as I thought it was 70C.

I have my Asus probe correctly set now.




FYI....

Take a peek on the ASUS support boards......I know Gigabyte reports temps about 10C higher than actual.
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Re: CPU Temps: When "hot" is "too hot".

You should go right to the source for this information: AMD or Intel.

For AMD chips, the max operating temperature is between 85C - 95C depending on your model chip. "Normal" operating temperature should be about 60C - 65C. I gathered this information from the AMD Technical FAQs. I'm sure Intel has similar information posted on its site.

If you are running close to or above the "normal" operating range, you may want to consider upgrading your computer's cooling options, such as a better CPU heatsink. You should also try dusting out the inside of the case as dust is the #1 cause of heat problems.
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Re: CPU Temps: When "hot" is "too hot".

You should go right to the source for this information: AMD or Intel.

For AMD chips, the max operating temperature is between 85C - 95C depending on your model chip. "Normal" operating temperature should be about 60C - 65C. I gathered this information from the AMD Technical FAQs. I'm sure Intel has similar information posted on its site.

If you are running close to or above the "normal" operating range, you may want to consider upgrading your computer's cooling options, such as a better CPU heatsink. You should also try dusting out the inside of the case as dust is the #1 cause of heat problems.


Alther, that is totally incorrect, but thanks for your answer.

Those temps you posted for AMD chips are wrong by a mile.
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FYI....
Take a peek on the ASUS support boards......I know Gigabyte reports temps about 10C higher than actual.


Also recomend taking a look there. I have just upgraded the bios in my AMD system running on an ASUS mobo - I did notice that some of the updates were infact to fix incorrect temp readings of the motherboard. So it may be better to get the correct reading before trying to set your threshold parameters.
The good thing is that ASUS gives you these udgades for free!
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Re: CPU Temps: When "hot" is "too hot".

You should go right to the source for this information: AMD or Intel.

For AMD chips, the max operating temperature is between 85C - 95C depending on your model chip. "Normal" operating temperature should be about 60C - 65C. I gathered this information from the AMD Technical FAQs. I'm sure Intel has similar information posted on its site.

If you are running close to or above the "normal" operating range, you may want to consider upgrading your computer's cooling options, such as a better CPU heatsink. You should also try dusting out the inside of the case as dust is the #1 cause of heat problems.


Alther, that is totally incorrect, but thanks for your answer.

Those temps you posted for AMD chips are wrong by a mile.


In what way are they wrong? These numbers come directly from the AMD CPU technical docs. My AMD64 3000+ is right there in the "normal" range when running WCG @ around 60C. Obviously, if you aren't running 100% the temps will be much cooler.
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Re: CPU Temps: When "hot" is "too hot".

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In what way are they wrong? These numbers come directly from the AMD CPU technical docs. My AMD64 3000+ is right there in the "normal" range when running WCG @ around 60C. Obviously, if you aren't running 100% the temps will be much cooler.


Rick - I'm also not sure what Rob Sab is thinking.
FWIW, I'm pretty sure that the CPU's will/should work without problem up to the max operating temp. That's simply the meaning of max operating temp. [With the usual caveat about measured/reported temp vs actual]
That said, as a guideline, my understanding is a reading for AMD CPU's above 60-65 at full load could be an indicator of something not working as designed/should be.
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Don't let mine get past 50..........50c I start tweaking again laughing
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65C for me...
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In what way are they wrong? These numbers come directly from the AMD CPU technical docs. My AMD64 3000+ is right there in the "normal" range when running WCG @ around 60C. Obviously, if you aren't running 100% the temps will be much cooler.


Rick - I'm also not sure what Rob Sab is thinking.


Ok... Let be more precise in what I have said (I hope you haven't mixed me up with Alther - the Author of your quote!). What I said was:
Also recomend taking a look there. I have just upgraded the bios in my AMD system running on an ASUS mobo - I did notice that some of the updates were infact to fix incorrect temp readings of the motherboard. So it may be better to get the correct reading before trying to set your threshold parameters.
The good thing is that ASUS gives you these udgades for free!


1. Have a look at the ASUS web site . Select your motherboard and read the comments next to the different BIOS versions. In my case two of the were remedies to wrong temperature readings off the motherboard sensor (including CPU).
2. Before getting worried about overheating and looking for solutions, just make sure that you have the correct readings (points of reference). Some monitoring programs allow you to delta the reading (+ or -).
3. If necessary only then - tweak - thresholds on CPU cut off, add fans, change heatsinks etc...

My AMD64 2200 runs at 48C (has a thermistor speed controlled fan. The fan runs at 60% and drops to 30% when there is no load). My P4 overclocked 1,8 to 2,3Ghz jumps up and down like a yoyo between 32 and 45 (never have been able to figure out why this reading is soo eratic)
I hope that is useful!

It is my understanding that ASUS have built in a temperature monitor and cutoff system for their motherboards, so you will not damage the processor. If anything, I would be watching the HDD to keep the temp under control - once it gets over 40C the MTBF drops by half! I hate to think what happens after that!
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