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Dataman
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Re: Time to pack it in

While not good news, I completely understand why you choose to do that. I too only crunch betas, new projects and Dengue here. There are about 80 other Distributed Computing projects worldwide and most of them work on a low budget and always need crunchers. With a user name of “Astrolabe.” perhaps you should look at some of the astrophysics projects like Milkyway and Einstein. POGS and Cosmology are some new ones. Anyway, thanks for the work you have done and for future work at any crunching level.
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astrolabe.
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Re: Time to pack it in

On the contrary, every WU crunched is a benefit to mankjnd and lessens suffering. Recruiting crunchers with tuned desktop power is becoming harder as consumers move to tablet and smartphones
You missed my point that it does not matter who crunches any WU. If I don't do it, then someone else will.
One thing you can say about WCG is that they do not spend any more effort on attracting members than they spend on retaining members. biggrin
Points and badge collecting really doesn't matter, being involved does.
One of the most important points about being involved in ANYTHING is the idea of being recognized for what you do. It can be really hard to feel involved without recognition
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RaymondFO
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Re: Time to pack it in

I understand what you are saying, however their are always new vistas and opportunities you can try. As Dataman pointed out above, those and two relatively smaller projects such as Asteriods@home and Orbit@home would probably appreciate your crunching abilities. While certain other BOINC crunching sites may not have an active message board as compared to WCG, you could still obtain recognition or badges from other BOINC sites where it is offered or join a team for camaraderie and for the social aspect.
You might rekindle that joy you once had when you started here and realize that in some way you are helping someone out with a project they could not do otherwise.

Just give it a try, as you really have nothing to lose.
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Sgt.Joe
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Re: Time to pack it in

One of the most important points about being involved in ANYTHING is the idea of being recognized for what you do. It can be really hard to feel involved without recognition

I don't run as many machines as you do, but I certainly do recognize the time, effort and money you have spent to crunch like you have.
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Re: Time to pack it in

"It can be really hard to feel involved without recognition."

There's no lack of recognition on here for you or any of the volunteers who give so much of their time and resources. Every person on here who chucks in a crunch-box for a few days/months/years/decades is doing a fine job.

Cancer and all the other nasty stuff isn't going away by itself though.

"We shall never surrender" - Winston S. Churchill

Yup. Stay and crunch. You're recognised.

You want badges I'll send you my off-i-shul Area 51 Pilots patch. Now they are rare.
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Re: Time to pack it in

Well as we have been adversary's on some issues you have been a great cruncher and i Think you have been sedulous in your efforts here-- smile God Speed and i do hope you still crunch here --- With respect--Gerald smile
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Jack007
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Re: Time to pack it in

On the contrary, every WU crunched is a benefit to mankjnd and lessens suffering. Recruiting crunchers with tuned desktop power is becoming harder as consumers move to tablet and smartphones
You missed my point that it does not matter who crunches any WU. If I don't do it, then someone else will.


One small point, if everyone feels that way then they wont get crunched.
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David Autumns
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Re: Time to pack it in

I'm with Jack007

While the badges and the points and the run time make for great bragging rights, the real reason we crunch is to produce valuable results for Scientists. Scientists who use that info for http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/research/viewAllProjects.do

It's why we completed this http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/research/viewAllProjects.do?proj=comp

That's why I crunch ... while I still can.

That's our legacy

Dave
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Hypernova
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Re: Time to pack it in

Astrolabe, I wish you all the best, and btw 100 years is not a small feat, and I know what it takes to reach it. applause applause applause

You mention "no recognition for four years of effort". If this was one of the objectives then I understand your frustration. But this was known from start. You could have crunched 1000 years and be at the same point in terms of recognition. The reasons why you have participated are yours only, and the motivation, pride and satisfaction have also to come from your "inside".

After all tomorrow, next week, month or year, IBM can decide to pull the plug and that's it. Blank screen and all badges, years, ranks, points are just gone, wiped out. Thanks to all of you for having participated, good bye.

We have to be very conscious about that. What will remain for each of us is the "real" contribution to help scientists to "maybe" make some progress in understanding, finding improved or new cures.

This contribution is anonymous and even if your WU that you have crunched is at the origin of a major discovery you may never know it and in any case you will get nothing for it. These are the hard rules of the WCG grid game. Those who decide to play have accepted them from inception whatever the cost. wink

Let me ask you a small question. If there would have been badges for 10, 25, 50, 100, 500 years, would that have kept you more motivated?
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Filip Falta
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Re: Time to pack it in

You see, no one actually cares if you are here because the work will get picked up by someone else.

It is safe to say that every one of my 218K WU means that someone else does not have to crunch them. It is also true to say that every WU that I do not crunch will get done by someone else.


More crunchers > Project will finish faster :)

But I think there should be something like real certificates of contribution shipped to real address for people with 100+ years crunched. Something like Einstein@Home Discovery certificates :)
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