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Former Member
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Hello everyone involved FightAIDS @ home project.
Do you think the BIG PHARMA is interested in developing or a vaccine or cure for serious diseases such as AIDS or CANCER? I think not. For the BIG PHARMA only cares about profit. I wonder what your opinions. |
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Former Member
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Hello van der straeten,
No human organization can run for long unless it can pay its workers. If they only lose money, soon they will not have any workers. Things get complicated when people think that the goods they produce should be available at little or no cost, for humanitarian reasons. This can be done if governments spend their tax revenues buying from Big Pharma. But the legislators want top spend the money buying from their friends. Many countries boast about price limits imposed on Big Pharma which allow a small profit on production but not on development or research. And they do not subsidize the pharmaceutical companies. I am reminded of how lawyers sue companies who make vaccinations based on poor statistical correlations. Since everybody is supposed to get vaccinations, the whole body of human ills can be associated with vaccinations, giving lawyers a great chance to make hundreds of millions off the sick and the suffering. This is a complicated topic with vast sums of money being pulled in many directions by different groups of people, some of whom are greedy and self-interested. Lawrence |
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Former Member
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Hello Lawrence Hardin
I agree with your opinion. I wrote this topic for thinking that a potential cure for some illness may never be used, even known if this medicine does not generate profit. Thank you for contributing your opinion. ![]() |
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Apache_Pilot
Cruncher Joined: Nov 22, 2005 Post Count: 12 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() |
If a cure for cancer or AIDs is found look how many people would be put out of work. One only needs to research how Harry Hoxsey was treated by the AMA when he was a pioneer in treating cancer. I think modern medicine is only interested in treating a condition...not curing it. There is more money in treatments than cures.
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Dan60
Senior Cruncher Brazil Joined: Mar 29, 2006 Post Count: 185 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Even with money running everything nowadays, there are ways not to let it dictate evil. For instance, think about The Stock Market as it regulates the prices of goods. And then think about why prices of goods are different for different companies. The answer lies on the customer and people of the world. The answer lies on what is really good for mankind. Serious companies and pharmacy, for example, won't risk their reputation. And besides, medicine itself is not related to The Stock Market and is dedicated to saving lives more than anything else. So a cure for the HIV infection is feasible as more and more professionals are researching for reaching it.
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johncmacalister2010@gmail.com
Veteran Cruncher Canada Joined: Nov 16, 2010 Post Count: 799 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Hello everyone involved FightAIDS @ home project. Do you think the BIG PHARMA is interested in developing or a vaccine or cure for serious diseases such as AIDS or CANCER? I think not. For the BIG PHARMA only cares about profit. I wonder what your opinions. That's your opinion. I would rather concentrate on helping with the research on WCG and leave others to make their own decisions based on their ethical frameworks. I believe in doing my bit to help alleviate human suffering. ![]() crunching, crunching, crunching. AMD Ryzen 5 2600 6-core Processor with Windows 11 64 Pro. AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor with Windows 11 64 Pro (part time) ![]() |
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noderaser
Senior Cruncher United States Joined: Jun 6, 2006 Post Count: 297 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
If I'm not mistaken, any research gathered through developments at WCG have to be publicly available... So, maybe with "open source" science, the discoveries will be implemented in a way that is accessible to a larger part of the population compared to private means. However, it will still fall to companies to finalize the developments and product a real-world product from the data generated here. But, with the data being available to everyone, it would be a more equal playing field--one company cannot hoard its research and leverage it to great advantage as is done with many commercial pharmaceuticals.
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twilyth
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I've known people who work for "big pharma" as the OP so quaintly puts it and they do a great deal of basic research equal to or better than what is done in academia. A woman I was in a long term relationship with was doing cutting edge research on the proteins associated with Alzheimer's for example. So yes, "big pharma" is quite interested in curing disease. What you fail to recognize is the prestige and recognition that comes with breakthrough discoveries - in addition to the contributions to the bottom line. That type of recognition attracts new talent which is the life blood of any research based company such one that develops pharmaceuticals.
----------------------------------------The naivete of some people who think that the people running these companies are some alien, reptilian species here for the sole purpose of preying on us poor defenseless humans never fails to both irritate and amuse. I can't even conceive of how narrow a world view one must have to actually believe such rubbish. ![]() ![]() |
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Former Member
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It is very good to know that these companies are really interested in developing better pharmaceutical compounds. And it is natural that these companies have costs and must have some reward for development.
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Sgt.Joe
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I think modern medicine is only interested in treating a condition...not curing it. There is more money in treatments than cures. I disagree. The eradication of smallpox is an example. Cheers
Sgt. Joe
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