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Richard Mitnick
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Does TThrottle work?

I searched around for a thread dealing with TThrottle and found nothing except Sekerob's recommendation.

I have two laptops (i5-520M, and i7-2620QM) which seemed to go into cardiac arrest from heat after running BOINC quite well for one to two years. So, a friend recommended TThrottle. (Please do not sak about vacuuming the vents, chill pads, etc., all of that has been done.)

On the i5-520M, I made the cpu rule 78 deg C, 75% of the 105 deg C max for the cpu.
With BOINC not running, the temps are around 39 deg C. Even with TThrottle, after about an hour, the temps hit 93 deg C on both cores, as reported by TThrottle.

Does anyone know, should I be doing something beyond setting the cpu rule?

Thanks.
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Re: Does TThrottle work?

Are the laptops using GPU's for crunching by chance?
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Re: Does TThrottle work?

Hello mitrichr,
It sounds as though Tthrottle is not able to work with your laptops, either through inability to access CPU temp or inability to throttle. Try throttling to 75% and see if that produces a lower temperature. If it does, then adjust that way to control temperatures.

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Re: Does TThrottle work?

Also installed TTrottle on my laptop as well as three I7-2600K systems. all four would become non-responsive and I would have to manually hard boot each whenever it locked up
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Re: Does TThrottle work?

I use it on wifes laptop, amd x2 cpu, works great. If TThrottle shows 93 C then it appears to be monitioring temp. Suggest check

1. Bionc preferances cpu use to 100%
2. delete rule created
3. TThrottle, program tab, set 78 C at the bottom where is says "Set CPU", under temp col.
4. on the right side check "Active" box
5. I also check "Auto active"
6. if you wish to throttle to less than 100% for other reasons then temp control, change "Max CPU %"

HTH

Edit: Also on wifes laptop, fan is part of a radiator/Heat pipe assy, about once a year I have to break system down, remove fan assy, disassemble and get fuzz from inside of radiator fins
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Re: Does TThrottle work?

My experience with an i7 is the same. Tthrottle says it's doing something, in fact it reports that it has throttled it down to 2% (the minimum) and temps still run in the mid to upper 90 C range.

I had to resort to using BOINC itself to throttle (3 seconds on, 2 off) and just keep an eye out for those projects that don't like stopping and starting.
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Re: Does TThrottle work?

For smooth throttling... still ThreadMasterGUI [run as admin to maintain settings], does a superior job, albeit, you set a percent [per-science] and that is it. Start Here FAQ's still has the manual. Simply use the ceiling option to apply a general control. Options Tab > Default CPU load threshold per application. This applies only fr background application and services, where a default exception set leaves the system services alone and the processes tab allows picking out which science app you'd like to set a limit for.

TThrottle did not work on my I7-2670QM [it does, but it does nothing much for the temperatures]. Stayed hot for me until down to 25%, where at 80% with TMG [that's a setting of 10 for an octo... 10*8 cores=80%] I'm having around 70C. But mostly, I let the HP cool-sense do the GHZ throttle job.... down to 2.5Ghz at 100% momentarily.

There is a throttle under development to replace this dog BOINC throttle system PITN [socially acceptable I read in a member comment], which works on the 3 main crunching platforms. Don't know where, don't know when.
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Re: Does TThrottle work?

OMG!! as they say. What a response. Too fast for me.

First, on the i5, all is well. The writer of TThrottle has a thread in BOINC Message Boards|Volunteers|Questions and problems. He said get rid of the rule, just set a temperature on the first tab, and all is well.

HOWEVER, he shouted, on my i7-2720QM, no luck. Sorry, I said 2620QM on my first post. I followed the same procedure, I set up TThrottle with BOINC installed but not running, and set a temperature. Then I launched bOINC, temps shot through the 80's C and the machine blue-screened for the third time with BOINC installed. This is so surprising, because this machine ran BOINC just fine from April 2011 up until about a month ago. It blue-screened twice in ten minutes. You know, they say if it is the first time, just go on, so I did.

So, then we (me and the I/T profesional where I work) ran diagnostics to check all of the hardware. When that was fine, we began removing unessential software. Since this is my work machine (owned by me but purchased by company), BOINC weas on the hit list. Now, all was fine, so, start adding back software. First was BOINC and the machine dropped dead again. So, I think it is not possible to run BOINC on this machine anymore.

I am glad that this is raising some interest. Knowledge of TThrottle is not exactly wide spread.
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Re: Does TThrottle work?

Tthrottle works fine for me, and I just use the cpu and gpu settings on the first page, not the rules. Fred has his own forums at his website and gives quick responses to problems like this. He's active on some other BOINC projects, but haven't seen him here.

Tthrottle is widely used and recommended at some of my other projects.

His forums are at this website
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