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David Addis
Cruncher Australia Joined: Dec 19, 2007 Post Count: 12 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Hi all
----------------------------------------Is there a way to remove or delete devices from your grid? My grid still shows old computers that are no longer being used. Thanks David
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pramo
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Dec 14, 2005 Post Count: 716 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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other than adjusting your personal view in Device Statistics, (Installed/Registered Device) and With Result(s) Returned
----------------------------------------, no. The devices stay... afaik  |
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mikey
Veteran Cruncher Joined: May 10, 2009 Post Count: 826 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Hi all Is there a way to remove or delete devices from your grid? My grid still shows old computers that are no longer being used. Thanks David The easy answer is no, the more complicated answer is still no but he REASON is Science. In Science you must document everything, even the failures, so if the project gets lucky and finds the cure for cancer, for instance, and the auditors say show me how you got here the project must be able to show them everything from day 1, or the last audit. So if 1 million units were crunched in 1 year and they can only show 1 pc and each unit took 10 hours, there is not enough time in a year to get there from here! Sure they could hide older pc's from showing up but that would take time away from the other things they NEED to do first. Then what about those that want all of their pc's to show up, so there must be a toggle switch or some other formula to display these but not those etc, etc. I currently show 45 pc's connected, but only have 6 that are actually connected.   |
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astrolabe.
Senior Cruncher Joined: May 9, 2011 Post Count: 496 Status: Offline |
I currently show 45 pc's connected, but only have 6 that are actually connected Almost right. What you have is showing that you have 45 devices that you have used since the beginning. The system doesn't care about how many are currently working, since a device that isn't currently in use might come back to life tomorrow. |
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cjslman
Master Cruncher Mexico Joined: Nov 23, 2004 Post Count: 2082 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Mikey... thanks for that explanation. That makes perfect sense (it has been bugging for some time).
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katoda
Senior Cruncher Poland Joined: Apr 28, 2007 Post Count: 172 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Well, I can understand why WCG does not allow us to delete/merge devices, but what I really miss is an ability to easy "revive" devices, missed due to i.e. hardware/software error or formatting a hard disk drive. In such case, I have to create a new device entry and all the statistics start from the scratch, which I do not like.
----------------------------------------I know that sometimes WCG knows that I'm using the same hardware (same IP, same name, same operating system) and does not create a new device ID, but I would prefer to have an ability to choose, instead to hope that WCG's algorithms are intelligent enough. I'm wondering if WCG could give us either: a. a possibility to choose to which existing device I would like to connect during installation of the WCG agent OR b. a possibility to all the necessary information (hostid, current rpc_seqno etc) required to create a correct configuration file connected with an existing device ID. Yes I know, I'm dreaming, nobody needs such functionality, but why not to give some ideas? :)  [Edit 2 times, last edit by katoda at Jul 20, 2012 1:06:29 PM] |
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mikey
Veteran Cruncher Joined: May 10, 2009 Post Count: 826 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Well, I can understand why WCG does not allow us to delete/merge devices, but what I really miss is an ability to easy "revive" devices, missed due to i.e. hardware/software error or formatting a hard disk drive. In such case, I have to create a new device entry and all the statistics start from the scratch, which I do not like. I know that sometimes WCG knows that I'm using the same hardware (same IP, same name, same operating system) and does not create a new device ID, but I would prefer to have an ability to choose, instead to hope that WCG's algorithms are intelligent enough. I'm wondering if WCG could give us either: a. a possibility to choose to which existing device I would like to connect during installation of the WCG agent OR b. a possibility to all the necessary information (hostid, current rpc_seqno etc) required to create a correct configuration file connected with an existing device ID. Yes I know, I'm dreaming, nobody needs such functionality, but why not to give some ideas? :) I believe that is a Boinc thing, not a WCG thing. Boinc is software like Windows, Linux, Firefox, games, etc and WCG uses it with only some modifications. Keeping the number of modifications small makes upgrading to the next version easier. Boinc stands for 'Berkeley Open Infrastructure Networked Computing' and is put out by Dr. David Anderson of Seti, and his team from the University of California Berkeley who is a Professor there. I am not sure just how much the University is involved in the day to day stuff, my impression is not much, but they do give him space and some tech support. Years ago Dr. Anderson got a grant to see if he could create a program to get you and I to use our pc to cooperatively crunch on a single issue. It is now called Boinc and there are MANY Projects that use the software. Here is a link to the active Distributed Computing Projects with the Boinc ones noted: http://www.distributedcomputing.info/projects.html |
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