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uplinger
Former World Community Grid Tech Joined: May 23, 2005 Post Count: 3952 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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We are starting to release the changed VINA application for GFAM. The announcement for the change is here.
https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread_thread,33259 The new application version will appear as 6.12 for GFAM. Thanks, -Uplinger |
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Former Member
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Forced my first one out the hopper... come and get them ;>):
----------------------------------------1065 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:16:59 [sched_op] CPU work request: 9156.94 seconds; 0.00 devices 1066 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:17:02 Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks 1067 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:17:02 [sched_op] Server version 700 1068 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:17:02 Project requested delay of 11 seconds 1069 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:17:02 [sched_op] estimated total CPU task duration: 32309 seconds 1070 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:17:02 [sched_op] Deferring communication for 11 sec 1071 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:17:02 [sched_op] Reason: requested by project 1072 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:17:05 Started download of wcgrid_gfam_vina_6.12_windows_intelx86 1073 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:17:05 Started download of gfam_image01_6.12.tga 1074 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:17:09 Finished download of wcgrid_gfam_vina_6.12_windows_intelx86 1075 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:17:09 Started download of gfam_image02_6.12.tga 1076 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:17:10 Finished download of gfam_image02_6.12.tga 1077 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:17:10 Started download of gfam_image03_6.12.tga 1078 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:17:11 Finished download of gfam_image03_6.12.tga 1079 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:17:11 Started download of gfam_image04_6.12.tga 1080 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:17:12 Finished download of gfam_image01_6.12.tga 1081 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:17:12 Finished download of gfam_image04_6.12.tga 1082 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:17:12 Started download of gfam_image05_6.12.tga 1083 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:17:12 Started download of gfam_image06_6.12.tga 1084 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:17:13 Finished download of gfam_image05_6.12.tga 1085 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:17:13 Finished download of gfam_image06_6.12.tga 1086 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:17:13 Started download of gfam_image07_6.12.tga 1087 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:17:13 Started download of gfam_image08_6.12.tga 1088 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:17:15 Finished download of gfam_image07_6.12.tga 1089 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:17:15 Finished download of gfam_image08_6.12.tga 1090 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:17:15 Started download of gfam_image09_6.12.tga 1091 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:17:15 Started download of gfam.xsera4_sd500_PfSub1_NoFlips.pdbqt 1092 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:17:17 Finished download of gfam_image09_6.12.tga 1093 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:17:17 Finished download of gfam.xsera4_sd500_PfSub1_NoFlips.pdbqt 1094 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:17:17 Started download of e2e28aad68e525b167228ee4d222d869.job 1095 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:17:17 Started download of cdbb0abe7808e90735b8ac3e4085787a.zip 1096 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:17:19 [sched_op] Starting scheduler request 1097 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:17:19 Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 1098 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:17:19 Requesting new tasks for CPU 1099 World Community Grid 6-6-2012 20:17:19 [sched_op] CPU work request: 4340.15 seconds; 0.00 devices --//-- [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Jun 6, 2012 6:20:12 PM] |
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pramo
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Dec 14, 2005 Post Count: 715 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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GFAM_ xNIMR_ PfSub1_ NoFlips_ 0023494_ 0136_ 1-- - In Progress 6/6/12 12:25:35 6/16/12 12:25:35 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
----------------------------------------GFAM_ xNIMR_ PfSub1_ NoFlips_ 0023494_ 0136_ 0-- 612 Pending Validation 6/6/12 12:25:18 6/6/12 18:28:52 5.83 127.4 / 0.0 <--Me /Waiting for the "reliable" to kick in   |
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Former Member
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Yes, you need those 5 valids first, so if going about it efficiently [in MM mode], run 5, switch to something else that is either quorum 2 anyhow or established ZR for your devices, then come back to continue when the first 5 have scored for this version 6.12. Not going to try it... running mix.
IIRC, think the techs were looking for an *inheriting* of status for a science, meaning, if a device previously was established for a science app, let that pass to a new version, but going from quorum 2 to ZR may not be one of those that qualify to do this... more along the line of a bug fix or speed up type of version change. --//-- |
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pramo
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Dec 14, 2005 Post Count: 715 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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IIRC, think the techs were looking for an *inheriting* of status for a science, meaning, if a device previously was established for a science app, let that pass to a new version, but going from quorum 2 to ZR may not be one of those that qualify to do this... more along the line of a bug fix or speed up type of version change. --//-- I'd vote for a re-establish ZR anyway- After all, something changed so re-prove. [ot] I'm at 9:329:13:15:05 for GFAM with a target of 10 so with what's queued I've just gotten off GFAM/ I'm at 7:324:05:38:37 for SN2S, so I'll hop off to enjoy that for a while [/ot] |
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Rickjb
Veteran Cruncher Australia Joined: Sep 17, 2006 Post Count: 666 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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 First, congratulations to Uplinger & the other techs for achieving ZR for the VINA projects. I've downloaded 10 GFAM WUs since uplinger's announcement of Zero Redundancy Change for the VINA application! in the Member News section, but all are still quorum of 2. I noticed that my copy of the GFAM program has been automatically updated to the ZR version 612. Then I re-read uplinger's announcement. There are several steps of checking the new version before WUs will be sent out as ZR. "These steps will take a few days to complete." I was unaware of the current requirement for a device to complete and validate 5 WUs of a particular WCG ZR project before being allowed to run ZR on that project. IIRC, FAAH was the project to which ZR was first introduced. At that time, the requirement to run ZR was that the device must have completed & validated 20 WUs in ANY combination of WCG projects. I seem to have missed the announcement of the change. Is the newer requirement of 5 valid WUs in the particular project a replacement for the earlier criterion, or is it in addition to it? (I thought my observations and the details of the requirements to run ZR might be of help and interest to other members - RJB) |
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gb009761
Master Cruncher Scotland Joined: Apr 6, 2005 Post Count: 3010 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Rickjb, the change in requirements, came in when they did that major upgrade of the coding within their systems. I can't just remember the exact date (although it'll be in the archives - Member News), but it was a month or two back...
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Former Member
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Yes, it used to be 15 or 20 before allowed to do it alone and now it's 5, which was with the implementation of server 700, March 6, when ZR was temporarily switched off altogether as the servers were building new statistical information per active device [vaguely, it was nearly 14 days]. Follow the exchange with pramo above how to short-track that, as for as long as 5 have NOT validated[ for a new science app version, you'll get them in twos, meaning if you cache up fast, as I did shortly after S700 came along, you end up doing many tens in quorum 2 before 5 have validated and the distribution to the device switches to ZR. Learn and weep, or as the saying goes in a certain country, a donkey never walks into the same rock twice ;D
------------------------------------------//-- P.S. Those danged and passionately avoided FAQ's were updated, IIRC. If not, it rarely gets mentioned they're not up to speed. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Jun 7, 2012 11:23:09 AM] |
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pramo
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Dec 14, 2005 Post Count: 715 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Yes, it used to be 15 or 20 before allowed to do it alone and now it's 5, which was with the implementation of server 700, March 6, when ZR was temporarily switched off altogether as the servers were building new statistical information per active device [vaguely, it was nearly 14 days]. Follow the exchange with pramo above how to short-track that, as for as long as 5 have NOT validated or a new science app version, you'll get them in twos, meaning if you cache up fast, as I did shortly after S700 came along, you end up doing many tens in quorum 2 before 5 have validated and the distribution to the device switches to ZR. Learn and weep, or as the saying goes in a certain country, a donkey never walks into the same rock twice ;D --//-- P.S. Those danged and passionately avoided FAQ's were updated, IIRC. If not, it rarely gets mentioned they're not up to speed. Indeed, which is why I run 0 cache and a project mix (bumping those only for announced outages and the odd, rare hoovering) I have so many lumps on my head that the country, looking at me, wouldn'know whether to laugh or cry! |
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Former Member
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Thinking about the ZR share at WCG, with the VINA conversions, we're now 8 out of 12 active researches running Zero Redundant on qualifying devices (Remember, last 5 serial valid for a science to get these assigned). when considering, that quorum 15 for HPF2 is really 15 unique results, slightly different from each other but close enough to allow credit computation and cross-validation , it's 3/4th of all projects at WCG. Pretty cool.
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