There's trusted meaning you don't return errors, and reliable meaning you return WUs quickly. So if you have a 10 day cache, without frequent errors.you don't need to be validated by someone else, but you won't be reliable since you have a large cache. Reliable computers need to be accurate AND return results quickly. This way, when a host doesn't respond, errors out, your rig can be called on to quickly return results.

I am beginning to get the picture. I think the fact that I get an occasional short deadline (at least one a day; usually several) means that I am trusted, but that does not imply that they will all be short deadlines.

(IIRC there was an earlier statement by SekeRob, that the only way to determine whether a computer is "trusted" is whether it gets short return time limits. If that is wrong, let me know.)

Whilst the word "Trusted" was used [to follow the OP term], there is no such definition in BOINC world that I can find [but maybe in the developer documentation]. Only "Reliable" is used in context of work assignment and my use of the "Trust" word was a substitution and misdirecting. Best stick to the official descriptions, for risk of confusing some ;>)

The FAQ's will be updated in time where it involves the Zero Redundant distribution and reliability in general. Don't think I'll introduce the *trust* word in the ZR FAQ, where doing it alone does not mean the random checking is done away with. I'm still seeing the ~10% of old second opinion and giving second opinion with _1 suffixed tasks, with the normal 10 day deadline as applying to the ZR sciences [Not a sure fire indicator!]. These ZR are:

FAAH
HFCC
CEP2
C4CW
CFSW

My "Inconclusive" [after nearly 600 CFSW] are sporadic [and acting as verifying _1 wingman may double in the re-verification process for efficiency purposes, as they go valid... the 5 sequential valid rule]. Note that the *regular* distributions are shown on the Dashboard [since a few months at bottom of the Tasks Completed section], The Matrix [behind in updating for newest sciences] and in the Start Here FAQ's.

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P.S. The official BOINC wiki, and our own WCGwikea refer to *trust* in terms of security:

edit: added Dashboard link.

Hello Jim1348,
My opinions on fine distinctions are not to be trusted, since I pay little attention to them, but my opinion is that when WCG adopted the single-validation method, criteria had to be defined to select computers that could be allowed to run work without another computer as a check. The criteria for 'reliable' computers were adopted, save for the unnecessary quick return criterion, and the resulting computers were called 'trusted'. So all 'reliable' computers are 'trusted' but some 'trusted' computers have larger caches than 'reliable' computers do.

Or maybe the rules have changed over the years without my noticing.

Lawrence

You may want to type in ''reliable'' in the Help search box and see where you end up... which is right in the introduction of the article from which you snipped point 1.

As for who wrote the 3-4 day deadline (as the only unambiguous indicator), it will have been the undersigned who posted that. The formula is 40% of original [standard] deadline, which used to be like 20-25%, but then for Beta repairs that became so short a deadline, that they got missed, so it was upped to 40%. :D

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edit: This 40% is not ''all'' applying. There are different calculations when for instance a host looses a task file and re-fetches it e.g. just before the original deadline. These get some shorter deadline to complete. After all, these hosts already allowed more than a week to say hello to WCG between fetching the task and connecting again. We've seen some exclamations of why such a short deadline was allowed [the RS page rewrites the assignment date to confuse the matter]... which now further will add to some doing head-scratching, but that is without me as I don't think is to be of any large importance. My hosts are managed so that tasks are on average returned within 48 hours, are 99.99% valid, ergo I ''trust'' them to be and remain ''reliable'' ;P

edit2: ''48 hours'', not ''48 ours''