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pgalioni
Cruncher Milky Way Joined: Nov 16, 2004 Post Count: 15 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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I am about to purchase 2 new computers and have the option of dual GPU's in each -- presume I can dedicate 1 to 3 GPU's for WCG use, but do not know that kind of stuff.
----------------------------------------Looking at what looks like I'll be getting I see I can get either an NVIDA or an AMD - both high end (now, soon will be low end). I ALSO see that there's trouble with GPU's???? don't read threads, just let my 2 machines churn away 24/7 for humankind and rarely if every (meaning maybe a few times a year) pop in to the WCG site to show a friend how cool it is what we are all doing. But I did see that GPU's don't work and haven't for years, since someone had the idea, is that correct? That would make a difference if using GPU's was only a pipe dream, I'm buying partly with WCG in mind. And will put out the money if it matters. But if it will just sit there doing nothing but eating energy (yeah, I DO turn off my monitor at night to save SOME power) -- so does it even matter? PLEASE SEND REPLIES TO ME AT: PGALIONI AT YAHOO DOT COM since I will probably not come back here. I also seem to be having other problems, but for another day -- now I am mostly concerned about the NVIDA and AMD cards, AND if the Cache matters -- is larger better? the rest is about normal I'd imagine: faster is better for all - Oh - would I be able to 'always run' as I have mine now set so the unused machine could use two GPU's AND the CPU (looks to be an i7 six core with L2 of 15 or 30 megs). This machine is dieing faster than I thought, so the sooner an answer the better, though I could purchase 1 machine now and another later -- also looking at 16 gigs of fast ram -- would that make a difference? That is, could I have 4 GPU's and 2 CPU's running at night when I'm asleep and if not - would I ever be able to, or would it be an ETERNAL waste of time and money? I see reference to 'pointers' all I care about is getting work done that helps mankind, I'd do this without points at all - just to help others. OH THIS IS ALSO IMPORTANT: HOW DO I RUN MORE THAN TWO MACHINES AT THE SAME TIME??? RIGHT NOW ALL I SEE IS 'WORK' AND 'HOME'. I think I have 4 or 5 386's and some 486's and a few Pentiums kicking around my basement when I was playing with an idea about 10 years ago or so - which is about when I got this machine I think. Sorry for not knowing much - but the older I get and the more committed I become to my 'last' project (major project) the less I seem to know about anything else. heck, it took me a good 30-40 minutes today to even find out how to leave a message - over several days of half hours here and there that's a LOT of hours! But if it were too easy, people would not read but need to be baby-fed, like me right now, so sorry, I looked a little an all I saw was what seemed like the announcement that GPU's could do work never came to be. But it looks like it might be happening now. I hope. thanks, paul -- who doesn't even know how to post!!!! yikes! been in the desert too long! - I'm just going to hit 'start new thread' and hope that does it - sorry guys, just don't get it and hours of time over several days is simply too much time for this brain to not absorb! OH! I SEE, YOU CAN'T POST IN PREVIEW! (THAT seems like it was the problem). thanks for any help any of you can give me! -- pg pgalioni AT Yahoo DOT com.
-- PAUL --
THE MORE YOU LEARN, THE MORE YOU WANT TO SCREAM! |
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Former Member
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pgalioni,
----------------------------------------Sorry for all your troubles. Have asked admin to move to the GPU forum, where these things are discussed. Re your "so the sooner an answer the better", also sorry, but it's improbable you get a mail reply unless you mail to support directly [and they do not give purchasing advice. As it is though the inter-member support through the forums is from hundreds, where through mail to support there is only 1 or 2 to assist.... long waiting list] Let us know here and surely there's someone to help you out. --//-- P.S. You can set the forum preferences to "watch" this thread [button, top right over your post]. Each time a reply is posted you'd get a mail, but that's with some delay... and you seem to be in a rush. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Mar 23, 2012 1:22:04 PM] |
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Richard Mitnick
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Feb 28, 2007 Post Count: 583 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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I will only reply here, so I hope that you do come back. I see you have plenty of WCG experience.
----------------------------------------I just started with GPU three weeks ago. Right now, WCG is just beginning to get into GPU crunching. There is a beta and there is one project which is aiming for GPU. I for one hope that GPU crunching will grow at WCG. I have two pretty decent cards, in a desktop, with a sealed liquid cooling system as I run 24/7 and these cards generate a lot of heat. I also have a sealed liquid cooling system on the hyper threaded six core CPU. There are some projects running on BOINC with GPU crunching not involved with WCG. I am attached to four of them: SETI@home, GPUGrid, Einstein@home, and Milkyway@home. This new computer has a "use every" line in the cc_config file. Because I also run those same projects on other computer without GPU crunching (they are laptops, where GPU is a no-no due to the heat), I have a "no gpu" line in their cc_config files. Credits? Not really my interest. But I have gone from 9,000-11,000 credits a day to over 150,000 credits a day. I am finishing more work units faster, so hopefully, I am helping speed up results. |
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pgalioni
Cruncher Milky Way Joined: Nov 16, 2004 Post Count: 15 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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SekeRob and mitrichr -- thanks both for a reply.
----------------------------------------Well, it's not a problem any more -- seems I may not be needing a new machine for a bit. I've been banished to "out in the desert", no wifi, wind-mill (pump) tank gives me warm 'cold' water in afternoon and cold 'hot' water in AM - and I live on a bank of 50*1, 000 AH @12VDC batteries. They are kept up by an old Jacobs that's been refurbished and a 1980's Darrieus rotor that only puts out about half the Jacobs from what looks to be 1928 with some 1938 parts in her. But she's been tweaked just a bit. So IBM makes a quad core that will take the 12VDC straight off the bank without any problem - and with satellite radio, dogs and a dulcimer I seem to be happy. Seems that when my old office mate and I found a truncated fiber-optic line (for future expansion) in a janitors closet and put in a switch and ran it to our office where he'd hooked us up to a cool (as in Kelvin) system using LN -- we heard: "blah-blah dangerous blah-blah home made blah-blah steeling university property (what? light? Gesh next it will be the air in our office!) blah-blah bad boys YOU move to THAT end of campus and YOU get your sabbatical out in the desert! and DON'T TALK TO EACH OTHER!" So, looks like I'm happy with the sky day and night and have a view most would kill for - no lights for 40 miles in any direction I can see (except up)! -- so, won't be needing the machines now seeing as they probably wouldn't work out there anyway. and why would I take MY BRAND NEW machine out into grit and grime? I'd rather borrow a friends. So I'll let this one grind slowly to death as I only get back here every 30-90 days or so -- looks like it's going to be more like 60 in summer and 90 in winter. Thanks a million for your quick answer - and I did come back. I wasn't asking for a buying decision for -- well, yeah I guess I was - different GPU's run differently enough that one model might work and another not at all. Surely they would let me know one that worked or not -- and ditto a CPU -- some faster ones might not be configured to make any difference at all in their output as BONIC wouldn't be able to use their speed - But now that I see you are at the 99th percentile, I sure am thinking I might have to get another LN pump and tank and wrap my entire board like we did at the office -- it sure DOES look like it get's the job done a LOT faster!!! - When this job (project) is done, then I'm retired and have a beauty of a place in the middle of the desert and another on a stream bed in a mixed coniferous forest - so the best of all worlds! You'll probably know when I get my LN pump going -- 99th percentile since '07? I'm VERY impressed with the work you are doing for WCG -- and you sure did get my mind wondering what a plain old simple CPU would do down in the 100's of *K? wonder if the electrical noise from the motherboard would be too much and create interference with the CPU that far down? We didn't have a problem but then we were using 1 year old high end machines at work . . . might be interesting to see the increase in speed. . . . . well there's only one way to find out- time to go looking for a good surplus pump.... Thank you again for a reply- I think the answer is 'NO DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY YET -- WAIT UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT WHAT WE ARE DOING.' -- thanks for your time and thank you also for the idea of LN -- I could play with that idea in the desert for quite awhile! -- paul (or just put the computer in a plastic bag and let her drop down below 0*F in the winter nights -- now THAT'S a good idea! Thank you!!!!! Boy you sure ARE smart! -- paul --
-- PAUL --
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mikey
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SekeRob and mitrichr -- thanks both for a reply. Well, it's not a problem any more -- seems I may not be needing a new machine for a bit. I've been banished to "out in the desert", no wifi, wind-mill (pump) tank gives me warm 'cold' water in afternoon and cold 'hot' water in AM - and I live on a bank of 50*1, 000 AH @12VDC batteries. They are kept up by an old Jacobs that's been refurbished and a 1980's Darrieus rotor that only puts out about half the Jacobs from what looks to be 1928 with some 1938 parts in her. But she's been tweaked just a bit. So IBM makes a quad core that will take the 12VDC straight off the bank without any problem - and with satellite radio, dogs and a dulcimer I seem to be happy. Seems that when my old office mate and I found a truncated fiber-optic line (for future expansion) in a janitors closet and put in a switch and ran it to our office where he'd hooked us up to a cool (as in Kelvin) system using LN -- we heard: "blah-blah dangerous blah-blah home made blah-blah steeling university property (what? light? Gesh next it will be the air in our office!) blah-blah bad boys YOU move to THAT end of campus and YOU get your sabbatical out in the desert! and DON'T TALK TO EACH OTHER!" So, looks like I'm happy with the sky day and night and have a view most would kill for - no lights for 40 miles in any direction I can see (except up)! -- so, won't be needing the machines now seeing as they probably wouldn't work out there anyway. and why would I take MY BRAND NEW machine out into grit and grime? I'd rather borrow a friends. So I'll let this one grind slowly to death as I only get back here every 30-90 days or so -- looks like it's going to be more like 60 in summer and 90 in winter. Thanks a million for your quick answer - and I did come back. I wasn't asking for a buying decision for -- well, yeah I guess I was - different GPU's run differently enough that one model might work and another not at all. Surely they would let me know one that worked or not -- and ditto a CPU -- some faster ones might not be configured to make any difference at all in their output as BONIC wouldn't be able to use their speed - But now that I see you are at the 99th percentile, I sure am thinking I might have to get another LN pump and tank and wrap my entire board like we did at the office -- it sure DOES look like it get's the job done a LOT faster!!! - When this job (project) is done, then I'm retired and have a beauty of a place in the middle of the desert and another on a stream bed in a mixed coniferous forest - so the best of all worlds! You'll probably know when I get my LN pump going -- 99th percentile since '07? I'm VERY impressed with the work you are doing for WCG -- and you sure did get my mind wondering what a plain old simple CPU would do down in the 100's of *K? wonder if the electrical noise from the motherboard would be too much and create interference with the CPU that far down? We didn't have a problem but then we were using 1 year old high end machines at work . . . might be interesting to see the increase in speed. . . . . well there's only one way to find out- time to go looking for a good surplus pump.... Thank you again for a reply- I think the answer is 'NO DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY YET -- WAIT UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT WHAT WE ARE DOING.' -- thanks for your time and thank you also for the idea of LN -- I could play with that idea in the desert for quite awhile! -- paul (or just put the computer in a plastic bag and let her drop down below 0*F in the winter nights -- now THAT'S a good idea! Thank you!!!!! Boy you sure ARE smart! -- paul -- Simple purchasing decisions....buy an Intel I7, they are faster than AMD machines right now although AMD WILL be faster later on. Buy as much as you can afford because as soon as you walk out the door a faster one will takes its place on the shelf! For the gpu buy as powerful an AMD one as you can, 7990 is the latest and greatest right now, but more will be coming out and they will be faster. Nvidia ARE also fast just not as fast here at WCG right now. Just remember...whatever you buy someone else will have a FASTER and BETTER one within a week! javascript:smilie('  ')  [Edit 1 times, last edit by mikey159b at May 25, 2012 1:47:15 PM] |
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