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Bugg
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Still, brinktastee, if the person wants to do mostly grid computing and only a bit of gaming, an AMD GPU card is the way to go. Especially for the price.
----------------------------------------Besides, I don't think the projects support any specific brand of GPU. Only that they support GPU processing in general.  i5-12600K (3.7GHz), 32GB DDR5, Win11 64bit Home [Edit 1 times, last edit by Bugg at Feb 11, 2012 12:44:56 AM] |
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Still, brinktastee, if the person wants to do mostly grid computing and only a bit of gaming, an AMD GPU card is the way to go. Especially for the price. Besides, I don't think the projects support any specific brand of GPU. Only that they support GPU processing in general. That is not true, there are projects that don't write boinc apps for ati cards. GPUGRID being one example. I'm told this won't be the case here when WCG starts using GPU, which is good to hear. |
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KWSN - A Shrubbery
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Call me old-fashioned, but since this is the WCG forum, I would expect discussion to be about how those cards do on WCG. Since that cannot be known until the application is released, all this speculation is futile if not mildly amusing.
----------------------------------------It's been stated over and over. If you want to do GPU crunching on WCG, don't buy anything. Wait until we know what we're dealing with. As for the OP, buy whatever you can afford. It sounds like any of them will be fine for your game. As long as the GPU supports CUDA you'll be good when WCG does release an app.  Distributed computing volunteer since September 27, 2000 |
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Bugg
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As Shrub correctly stated, I wasn't concerning myself with other applications outside of WCG. :)
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nanoprobe
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FWIW I think the future of GPU computing will be OpenCL based. Then it won't matter if you go ATI or Nvidia.
----------------------------------------Here is a link that shows which projects currently support which cards. These is one missing and that is POEM, which currently supports ATI only and requires a 7.0.xx version of BOINC to run. They are working on Nvidia compatibility. (The POEM website is currently off line for maintenance.) @ anhhai I would recommend a discrete video card rather than a CPU/GPU combo. GPU crunching requires a certain amount of CPU power and having a separate card will make things more tweakable. You can buy very capable cards that are 1 or 2 generations behind the current crop at good prices. JMHO
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Bearcat
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Just get the items that are in my sig. :) They crunch just fine, and rather well, and the video card (ATI Radeon) is better for crunching than most or all nVidia's. Good suggestion except would recommend a GPU with 2 gb memory, such as the ATI 6950 or above. You will be ready for GPU crunching when WCG starts using the GPU. Now ivy bridge will have a better integrated GPU. I personally never buy into integrated graphics. Would rather have a dedicated GPU on tap when needed vs needing one and not have it. If you can splurge, get the new i7 processor.
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anhhai
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thx guys. Not sure if I will wait until April for the price drops, because it will usually only be about $10 for the processor/motherboard combo from what I remember. (may just hold out due to laziness though) I will however hold out on the video card. Since even the internal video card will be good enough for my games, it will be enough. I can buy a new video card later when WCG gets GPU going. There is only 1 project that currently support GPU that I would actually spend money on to support, however it doesn't like low end cards. So WCG is the only project that I care about.
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Coleslaw
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nanoprobe, keep in mind that link is even still outdated. (I did notice a recent update of it.) I'm not sure why they keep listing Lattice as "soon" when it has been "soon" for over a year and has had little input on being soon if you read their forums. Also, GPUGrid.net released another sister project that some have found misleading at first called http://donateathome.org/. It is a Bitcoin BOINC project that they are setting up to help fund GPUGrid.net and to test out the OpenCL for ATI/AMD that they are trying to get on GPUGrid. I think if they are going to keep listing Lattice, they should list all of the other projects "working" on getting GPU apps.
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nanoprobe
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nanoprobe, keep in mind that link is even still outdated. (I did notice a recent update of it.) I'm not sure why they keep listing Lattice as "soon" when it has been "soon" for over a year and has had little input on being soon if you read their forums. I know it's not up to date. I just wanted to give him a reference point. I've read about the new GPUGrid project but that doesn't really interest me at all even if I had any Nvidia cards.  As for things getting outdated, you have a point but I would expect WCG to make as many GPUs usable as possible. Any DP card should be fine and they can be picked up for good prices now. There's always the gotta have the latest crowd that sell off stuff every time a new card comes out.
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Coleslaw
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nanoprobe, I agree that there are a lot of people always seeking the latest and selling off the old. And don't misunderstand me, I'm a supporter of including the outdated slower cards. I have several I still use and crunch on. I just wont suggest getting one until the need arises. Too many of the crunchers in here lose focus on OP's and go into what performs better elsewhere now or how much it costs in x amount of time down the road.
----------------------------------------I also don't like the link for the fact that other projects were known to be out even when it was updated that do in fact have work. They didn't even mention Albert@home or Poem@home. For a while, drugdiscovery, enigma, and others have also discussed or mentioned efforts being made to bring GPU work to their projects but don't yet have it. |
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