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keithhenry
Ace Cruncher Senile old farts of the world ....uh.....uh..... nevermind Joined: Nov 18, 2004 Post Count: 18667 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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MyOnlineTeam Daily Statistics for 02/06 - Active Members
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Note: Active members are those who earned points in the prior 30 days. Top Twenty active members returning points today: 01: RT - 251,708 points 02: judson Somerville MD - 187,804 points 03: GeraldRube - 121,034 points 04: Coingames - 83,089 points 05: xroule - 66,020 points 06: David Autumns - 37,110 points 07: NiceMedTexMD - 36,278 points 08: dkt - 33,481 points 09: Daeloan - 30,335 points 10: brown chris - 27,347 points 11: parmesian - 21,232 points 12: finman - 20,312 points 13: smcclarigan - 18,632 points 14: pramodp - 17,712 points 15: Blueprint - 15,036 points 16: Vuj - 14,787 points 17: darth_vader - 13,633 points 18: Jonathon Wright - 12,739 points 19: dubhain - 12,367 points 20: keithhenry - 9,246 points Total points returned today: 1,093,526 Active members returning points today: 40 Average points per member active today: 27,338.15 |
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darth_vader
Veteran Cruncher A galaxy far, far away... Joined: Jul 13, 2005 Post Count: 514 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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In my continuing quest to become the bionic man, I am going to have a knee replaced with a shiny new one in a few days. I will likely be missing from the forum for a bit but not to worry; All will be well and I will be back to making rambling semi-nonsensical remarks before you know it.] RT - If this is your first knee replacement, make sure that you - know what your current range of motion is - do all your physical therapy exercises (with help if necessary) - consider getting an "ice water machine". This is a portable cooler with a pump inside it and a "cuff" that goes around your knee. It helps with the pain and swelling - have a properly adjusted walker. You'll need it for a couple of weeks (or longer depending on how quickly you heal) - know where the TV remote is at all times  Hope your recovery goes well and quickly. - D |
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darth_vader
Veteran Cruncher A galaxy far, far away... Joined: Jul 13, 2005 Post Count: 514 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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RT, I read the info about BOINC 7, and I keep seeing AB and CE, but I have no idea what they refer to. I would think AB is for additional work buffer. Is this correct? What is CE? AB - additional buffer CE - connect every (as in connect every xx.xx days) - D |
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keithhenry
Ace Cruncher Senile old farts of the world ....uh.....uh..... nevermind Joined: Nov 18, 2004 Post Count: 18667 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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RT, I read the info about BOINC 7, and I keep seeing AB and CE, but I have no idea what they refer to. I would think AB is for additional work buffer. Is this correct? What is CE? CE is connect every. As I understand it, BOINC currently will contact the server at an interval set by CE to request work. With a CE of 0.5, BOINC contacts the server every half day and requests a half-day's work for each core. AB tells it how much additional work to get when it does this contact. Thus, a CE of 0.5 and an AB of 0 would make sure you have half a day's work every half day. A CE of 0.5 and an AB of 1.0 would maintain 1.5 days of work on your machine for each core. It wouldn't get 1.5 days of work every half day. It would "top it off" getting however much work is needed to have 1.5 days of work waiting and in process. In BOINC 7, this will be quite different, in my mind at least. CE will become a minimum amount of work that, when reached, will trigger BOINC to connect to the server for more work. A CE that is now set to 0 will become a minimum amount of work of 0. That means BOINC won't contact the server for more work until your machine has NO work. If you set that to 1.0, it will only contact the server when the amount of work you have per core gets down to one day's worth. Instead of contacting the server with a given frequency, it will contact it only once you're low enough on work. What is now the AB will become a maximum buffer. With a minimum buffer (nee CE) of 1.0 and a maximum buffer (nee AB) of 2.0, once your machine is down to one day's worth of work per core, it will contact the server asking for more work and get no more than enough to have two days of work per core. What this will mean is that user machines will be contacting servers asking for work less frequently and when they get work, it will be in larger volumes. Instead of getting one or two new WU's at a time, you'll see maybe 5-6 at a time perhaps but a lot less frequently. This is going to probably reduce the volume of requests on servers but it could also raise concerns for users who might be disk space constrained (they will have greater variation in disk space usage) or who need to limit the length of time connected to the Net. At this point, I'm not seeing much benefit from the max buffer setting but then we're all used to thinking in terms of keeping a certain amount of work "queued" on our machines. That's the min buffer to me. |
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GeraldRube
Master Cruncher United States Joined: Nov 20, 2004 Post Count: 2153 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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In my continuing quest to become the bionic man, I am going to have a knee replaced with a shiny new one in a few days. I will likely be missing from the forum for a bit but not to worry; All will be well and I will be back to making rambling semi-nonsensical remarks before you know it.] RT - If this is your first knee replacement, make sure that you - know what your current range of motion is - do all your physical therapy exercises (with help if necessary) - consider getting an "ice water machine". This is a portable cooler with a pump inside it and a "cuff" that goes around your knee. It helps with the pain and swelling - have a properly adjusted walker. You'll need it for a couple of weeks (or longer depending on how quickly you heal) - know where the TV remote is at all times Hope your recovery goes well and quickly. - D Good suggestions especially the remote--hope all goes well  |
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Former Member
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Thanks darth_vader and keithhenry for the quick response. I had to reboot two of my systems this morning due to a power outage sometime last night. One other system had already been rebooted my my son who gets up a bit earlier than I do. Of course this laptop does not have any such problems.
----------------------------------------RT, I didn't see your morning message so I assume your at the hospital having your knee replaced. I read the posts above about what you should do to prepare for post surgery. I don't like the thought of that as I am recovering from a twisted ankle (pulled muscles) that happened two and a half weeks ago. At it appears to be getting better now. I go see the doc tomorrow morning. Good luck with your recovery. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Feb 7, 2012 4:51:10 PM] |
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RT
Master Cruncher USA - Texas - DFW Joined: Dec 22, 2004 Post Count: 2636 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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 Good Morning My friends at MOT This is likely my last post for a few days so I had to comment on several things: On those IBM Operating Systems. I am not sure what MVM was but we used VM with CMS for a lot of stuff..if you will the first big personal computer...sorta - logically. On BOINC. That discussion to me is confusing. I think Keith has it right but even then it is confusing to me. When they say "Contact Every" it is misleading in version 7. It should be called "Contact When". With version 7, it is no longer a measure of time but a measure of current inventory or what accountants call a "Reorder Point". Another confusing thing they say is "for each core" or similar. That is unnecessary to my way of thinking unless your cores are asymmetrical; perhaps that is important when you are running GPU and CPU tasks. The way I think of it is that if you were running a Convenience Store and you kept Twinkies. Every time you got down to 2 cases of Twinkies, you would order some more so you would not run out (since it takes a while for them to deliver the new ones). Beyond that, Instead of ordering just one case of Twinkies, you know that you sell about 3 cases a week , so you order enough to have 6 cases total (in this case 4 -- since you already have 2). This should keep enough stock of Twinkies on hand so that you would not run out even if the delivery man was a bit late for some reason. This 4 (order amount) is what they are calling AB. So, if you had a snowy day and did not sell any Twinkies but the delivery man just happened to be in the neighborhood, you could have as many as 6 cases at one time. (We are all really scientific here so we can't use terms like Reorder Point and Order amount). Actually, it does make sense. I suppose I will withdraw my earlier deleterious remark. The transition will be interesting though as it will cause no end of confusion (IMHO -- especially if they continue to call it "CE"). To be fair there is a time dimension to the "CE" since they tend to be consumed over time and that is part of the BOINC equation..but it is easier to understand if you ignore that. Finally, I would point out that SekeRob pointed out that you can just bypass all this by setting your "CE" (minimum work buffer) to the minimum amount you want in the work queue and set the AB (Max Additional Work Buffer) to zero. But that does somewhat defeat the purpose of the change which presumably would lower the load on the servers. On the other hand as Keith points out, it could cause some issues if you have restricted disk space for WUs. As to the knee thing. Thanks for the advice. They are sending me home with a machine that you strap your leg in and it continually flexes it. They are saying to use that puppy for as much as 8 hours a day. Now I really want to confirm that as it seems excessive. I am pretty sure that I have all the right setup. sans the dancing girls. Wait, that was on my list -- not theirs  . They will be sending a PT person to the house for a week or two and presumably I will need to go to the local PT place for a couple of weeks after that. I am trading a pain in the knee for a temporary pain in the wazoo. Hopefully I will report back in a week that it was a good trade. Everyone take care and have some great days while I am attending to this other stuff and remember that what you are doing here is important and you are a good person for doing it. Thanks. One of your friends from Texas  |
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nanoprobe
Master Cruncher Classified Joined: Aug 29, 2008 Post Count: 2998 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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I've been playing around with version 7.0.8. From what I can make of the new settings I think they work something like this. The CE connect every setting will give that amount of cache and the AB additional buffer tells the client when to reload to the CE setting.
----------------------------------------An example would be a CE setting of 1 day and a AB setting of .50 days. You would get a 1 day cache of work that will be refilled when the cache level reaches a .50 day supply.  @RT- Hope all goes well with your surgery. With my knees I'm sure that will be my destiny too some day.
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keithhenry
Ace Cruncher Senile old farts of the world ....uh.....uh..... nevermind Joined: Nov 18, 2004 Post Count: 18667 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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MyOnlineTeam Daily Statistics for 02/07 - All Members:
----------------------------------------Team rank movement report =========================
Points milestones report ======================== GeraldRube reached 96,000,000 points  Runtime milestones report ========================= nl59056 reached 65 years of runtime Mechanical reached 2 years of runtime Results returned milestones report ================================== No results returned milestones found.  New members report ================== No new members found. Retired members report ====================== No new retired members found. For the week as a team: Statistics Total Run Time Points Results Team Records: Results Returned: 12/15/2011 4,598 Points: 12/15/2011 1,578,741 Runtime: 12/15/2011 1:125:23:14:23 Good crunching folks!!!!! |
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keithhenry
Ace Cruncher Senile old farts of the world ....uh.....uh..... nevermind Joined: Nov 18, 2004 Post Count: 18667 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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MyOnlineTeam Daily Statistics for 02/07 - Active Members
----------------------------------------Active team members report ==========================
Note: Active members are those who earned points in the prior 30 days. Top Twenty active members returning points today: 01: RT - 300,532 points 02: judson Somerville MD - 234,399 points 03: GeraldRube - 165,934 points 04: Coingames - 83,250 points 05: xroule - 63,177 points 06: David Autumns - 43,462 points 07: Daeloan - 41,406 points 08: NiceMedTexMD - 38,620 points 09: dkt - 32,378 points 10: parmesian - 28,851 points 11: finman - 23,725 points 12: smcclarigan - 22,943 points 13: darth_vader - 20,834 points 14: pramodp - 18,823 points 15: brown chris - 17,884 points 16: Vuj - 17,556 points 17: keithhenry - 13,670 points 18: PohSoon - 11,296 points 19: Blueprint - 10,867 points 20: lawrencehardin - 10,581 points Total points returned today: 1,284,079 Active members returning points today: 39 Average points per member active today: 32,925.1026 |
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