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RIP Dan Weldon

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Re: RIP Dan Weldon

So very sad.

Edit: Most horrific crash I think I've ever seen.
The debate will continue: do open wheel cars belong on high speed high banked ovals? It's fun to watch but I don't ever want to see someone die like I did today. It really broke my heart.
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Re: RIP Dan Weldon

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Re: RIP Dan Weldon

So very sad.

Edit: Most horrific crash I think I've ever seen.
The debate will continue: do open wheel cars belong on high speed high banked ovals? It's fun to watch but I don't ever want to see someone die like I did today. It really broke my heart.
rose

Yes, was shocking to watch real-time in HD. Open cockpit may enter the debate too. When, airborne at 220 mph, there is nothing between ones head and the catch fence but a helmet ... the outcome is predictible. The debates continue and racing evolves. Very sad to see the end of a great talent.
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Re: RIP Dan Weldon

A very sad day indeed ... Dan Wheldon will be missed tremendously.

http://danwheldonmemorial.com/

What bothers me about IndyCar racing is the lack of respect some of the driver display to each other and their sport. Racing at this level is a high stakes game where lives are always at risk. It's one thing to be fierce competitors on the track but another thing to blatently drive recklessly. I have watched so many races this year where the chief steward tells the drivers before the race to take of each other and it just doesn't happen. It's amazing there haven't been more fatalities this year. The drivers had concerns going into the event about the speeds and safety. They were bumping wheels at 225 mph at the start of the race. The crash happened on lap 11 of 188 laps. Everybody knows these races are won in the last 30 laps. What were they thinking? Some of the drivers are not qualified to drive these cars. Something needs to be done to stop this stuff before a Franchitti, Dixon, Kanaan or Castroneves is next. Danica Patrick is smart. She's leaving for Nascar where it's a little bit more safer.

We lost a great champion and ambassador of American open-wheel racing yesterday. Something that probably could have been avoided. Hopefully this event wakes IndyCar up. Unfortunately, next year's redesigned cars are supposed to be more powerful. Let's see what happens. I have seen Scott Brayton, Jeff Krosnoff, Greg Moore, Gonzalo Rodríguez, Paul Dana and Dan Wheldon get killed over the 30+ years I've followed this sport. Tony Renna died at Indy during a testing session. He crashed threw the catch fence and landed into the Turn 3 grandstand where I sat for the 2003 Indy 500. I don't want to see any of these incidents happen again.

The response will always be "These things happen in Motor Racing". Do they really need to?
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Re: RIP Dan Weldon

Very sad... more one great talent lost in more one unsafe race...

After the tragedy that reached Senna many years ago in the F1, I and many Brazilians stoped watch car races around the world once we became sceptics about the cirque and the people that lead it around all types of car competitions. Neither bigshot or important person or VIP from car races, was convicted or responsabilized by Senna homicide, and I believe that in the Weldon case will be the same, unfortunately.


There are some billion dollars in businesses interests involved in all kind of teams from all kind of car categories which figth in all kind of unsafe and popular competitions, that put a lot of pression to show continues...

My guess is that this kind of horrific tragedies never will stop due the kind of cirque behind the scenes which is the same that provide the main sponsorship for all things on that... think about it.

RIP Dan Weldon, with some hope that something will change some day in this idiot scheme... sad
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Re: RIP Dan Weldon

Thanks for the comments and respect.
Some of the drivers are not qualified to drive these cars.

Agreed. But these are not rational personalities. This is like giving a Navy Seal Team F1 cars. wink Drivers are a breed unto their own and if they can go faster, faster they will go.
Unfortunately, next year's redesigned cars are supposed to be more powerful. Let's see what happens.

What I think is unfortunate is that the 2012 car design is already done.
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As you can see they just can’t quite enclose those rear wheels and the driver’s head is still in the wind. There is lots of buzz about improvements to the catch fence but the fact is this is an expense born by the track owners not IndyCar or NASCAR and most tracks just went through the expense of adding the safer barrier to the walls and a few just repaved due to track aging. Where is the money to come from? I can only speak to American tracks but most here are barely starving off bankruptcy. Attendance is way down and costs way up. Even NASCAR, the “monetary jewel in the crown”, is losing sponsors at an alarming rate and teams are getting smaller or going under. IndyCar appears to have even more serious financial woes. But, as you say, let’s see what happens in the off season.
BTW, totally by accident I was a bit prophetic in my previous post. This morning I listened to a very interesting discussion on the similarities between racing IndyCar/F1 cars and jet boats and the evolution of their cockpit/canopy. One thing is certain, at the speeds they both travel, if you go airborne and upside down you are going to have a bad day.
The response will always be "These things happen in Motor Racing". Do they really need to?

It will always be an inherently dangerous endeavor but I think safety can be improved and still keep it exciting. My question is whether or not IndyCar can survive it financially.
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Re: RIP Dan Weldon

Just to coment, in honnor of Weldon for sure, that is crazy keep the things like are today...

To put real numbers on the table, just saw that in 20 Indy seasons we now have collected the incredible 8 fatal accidents statistic... it too much friends... one guy killed each 2,5 years... too much for sure !

How many more we need watch to stop this brutality ? thinking
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