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Looks like Bulldozer is only so-so

Here's a pretty good comprehensive review of the new AMD 8 core chip.
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/amd_fx8150/

The one thing that really turns me off is the power draw. Another review (from a Swedish website) showed a whopping 445w draw at the wall when over clocked to 4.77 Ghz. link
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Re: Looks like Bulldozer is only so-so

More on this topic here.
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Re: Looks like Bulldozer is only so-so

I knew about the other thread but I thought this should have one of its own.
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Re: Looks like Bulldozer is only so-so

If anyone does have an AMD bulldozer system FX-8150 or similar, I would like to see real world performance numbers posted in terms of World Community Grid performance...like points per day or results generated for a particular project.

I'm specifically curious about how much the lower floating point performance of bulldozer will affect WCG workloads, or equally how much integer performance improve WCG workloads

Thanks in advance to anyone with real-world performance numbers!
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Re: Looks like Bulldozer is only so-so

If anyone does have an AMD bulldozer system FX-8150 or similar, I would like to see real world performance numbers posted in terms of World Community Grid performance...like points per day or results generated for a particular project.

I'm specifically curious about how much the lower floating point performance of bulldozer will affect WCG workloads, or equally how much integer performance improve WCG workloads

Thanks in advance to anyone with real-world performance numbers!


I have no data. I agree we need 'real world' performance numbers. When my friend either builds or upgrades a PC for me he 'stress tests' it. Invariably all tests are passed and he is satisfied. I never am and always suggest C4CW or CEP2 WUs for a 'real' test. CRASH, CRASH, CRASH.....

I will not be upgrading to a bulldozer or any other earth-moving equipment: my Phenom II X6 1090T black and Phenom II X4 black will have to earn their keep for some time running WCG 24/7.

Too much hype from AMD & INTEL and their 'fans' for my taste these days.

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I'm specifically curious about how much the lower floating point performance of bulldozer will affect WCG workloads, or equally how much integer performance improve WCG workloads

If the power comsumption of Bulldozer is confirmed then I don't think that makes them a viable upgrade for crunching even if the floating point performance is better than current Intel CPUs. JMHO.
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Re: Looks like Bulldozer is only so-so

An early review of an engineering sample said that the 2 integer cores in a bulldozer module were obviously slower than the integer core in a Phenom II CPU. So far, that is in agreement with the current reviews.
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I have no data. I agree we need 'real world' performance numbers. When my friend either builds or upgrades a PC for me he 'stress tests' it. Invariably all tests are passed and he is satisfied. I never am and always suggest C4CW or CEP2 WUs for a 'real' test. CRASH, CRASH, CRASH.....

I will not be upgrading to a bulldozer or any other earth-moving equipment: my Phenom II X6 1090T black and Phenom II X4 black will have to earn their keep for some time running WCG 24/7.

Too much hype from AMD & INTEL and their 'fans' for my taste these days.

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Your 1090t and x4 are still great cpu's!...I used to have them but have since switched to 2500k and 2600k for better performance per watt.

Its a shame that AMD doesn't simply make a 1090t die shrink to 32 nm....it would probably use much less power, especially for overclockers, while maintaining stronger core for core performance than bulldozer
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Re: Looks like Bulldozer is only so-so

An early review of an engineering sample said that the 2 integer cores in a bulldozer module were obviously slower than the integer core in a Phenom II CPU. So far, that is in agreement with the current reviews.


I never realized that bulldozer cpu's would actually be as slow as a real bulldozer. Judging by the names, AMD's upcoming Steamroller(2013) doesn't sound terribly fast either! :)
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Its a shame that AMD doesn't simply make a 1090t die shrink to 32 nm....it would probably use much less power, especially for overclockers, while maintaining stronger core for core performance than bulldozer


They have managed to shrink Athlon to 32nm: AMD Athlon II X4 631, 4 cores x 2.60GHz with 100W TDP!!!
Similar Athlon in 45nm (615e) has 45W TDP
Great improvement, AMD! applause
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