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Thread: Christmas present every year for Linux users: Latest update of BOINC distributed by update administration of Linux |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Dear Friends,
I think there are many among us who use Linux. For all these users, I would like to ask whether once in every year, in December, as a Christmas present, the newest version could be distributed with the help of update administration (in German Aktualisierungsverwaltung) which is part of Linux? BOINC Installation in Linux after normal download from berkleys website is not really difficult, but installing it with Linuxes update aministration is much easier, it is automatic. I do not ask for delivery of every new BOINC version, but once in a year it will for sure be possible to hand on the files to Linux foundation and ask them to distribute it within automatic Linux uptdate administration. All the best to eveyone, big congratulation to our milstone and goodnight. I will try to findout the adress of the foundation in some time, but now I simply do not have time. Thanks for all your efforts. Martin Schnellinger |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Martin,
Maybe something got lost in translation, but I've added the Launchpad ppa to the Software center repo. Been running 6.12.33 stable from there (see Confez thread). Saw a familiar (German) name being part of the porter team. Frankly, I think the layout of the tasks tab view is the pits in 6.12. One day I'll dig up the code, and shuffle the columns back the way I like them and put the CPU time column back and the message tab too. Why WCG skipped this version... well, they have no time to test it or spend time auditing the code putting it through the security audit paces before endorsing. Think WCG forum discussions have revealed enough interface weaknesses not to make the jump. --//-- |
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Former Member
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Hello Sekerob,
sorry, but I have got linguistic trouble to understand your anwswer. I doubt whether you have got my point. It is very good that BOINC is in UBUNTU Softwarecenter. Thank you for putting it there. But the software center is only for installing and uninstalling programms, not for updating them. As I installed BOINC a long time ago from the software center , I have got a very old version now. And I would like to get a newer one once a year in a safe and comfortable way, which is the update administration integrated into Linux. And Worldcommunity grid could make updating it very much easier, if Worldcommunity grid once, only once a year, would send a stable, new, good version to the Ubuntu foundation and would ask them to put it in Ubuntu's update administration (Aktualisierungsverwaltung) not only in the softwarecenter. Maybe I have my point clearer now, not a native English speaker unfortunately. All the best to you. Martin Schnellinger |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Martin, BOINC updates have been offered to me multiple times from the official repository. The maintainers have to compile for each version of Ubuntu, so there is a Karmic, Lucid, Natty, Ocelot version of BOINC.
The standard Synaptic/Ubuntu repository I visited last officially endorses Ubuntu version 6.10.59, but can't say if backports were made for Karmic of this release. You don't tell which Ubuntu release you have [+ bit size], so I can point you to the right version of .deb files. On my Ubuntu I just have to double click that file to get it to install and set all the permissions correctly. Here is the summary of latest version of BOINC for each Ubuntu version: https://launchpad.net/boinc/+packages Inside Synaptic Package Manager (Ubuntu 10.04 and higher) you can choose what level of updating you would like to have. I've selected "latest". Synaptic and the Ubuntu Software Center (USC) do almost the same, but not completely. It's said the Synaptic will not be the main software resource tool from Ubuntu 11.10 (Ocelot), and the USC replacing it by default. Don't think WCG will do the sending of the code as then the control of the source code would not be under their control. The only one place external to WCG is the Berkeley download location, where also the official WCG build for windows can be fetched. WCG as yet has not made or has Berkeley make specific builds for WCG for Linux. Fear there wont be a X-mas present for Ubuntu crunchers. Too many versions (distros) around. --//-- |
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marvey11
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Martin,
----------------------------------------6.10.58 is still the recommended BOINC version for both Linux x86 and x86-64 (see the Berkeley Download Page). And this version (or even 6.10.59) is available to all recent Ubuntus down to at least Lucid (10.04). And if yours if still older, then you are probably using 'a very old version' of Ubuntu itself? If you absolutely want a newer BOINC you have two options: 1) wait for 11.10 which will be released in about two months and will probably ship with a 6.12.xx or 2) install the version from Launchpad, but keep in mind that this version is currently considered 'unsupported' (the link you can find in SekeRob's post above and some further information is available at the end of the Linux Adept thread, also courtesy of SekeRob  ) |
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steffen_moeller
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From what I understand from Martin's original posting it seems like Ubuntu has some means to auto-update packages. This way, there would be less of a delay and less of user interaction to get to a next version of the BOINC client software.
The Debian (like me) and Ubuntu folks are co-maintaining the BOINC client. I am not aware of this issue to yet have been discussed or even addressed. The reason most likely is that the core interest of ours is to provide something that works. What exact version you are using does not matter so much since the applictation doing the science is always updated through the BOINC client, no matter what version of the BOINC client you are running. |
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Former Member
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At various points in time Berkeley developers were asked for auto-update and there's always been a njet. There's only a message/event log/notice entry showing in the client when there's a new version, and only if using the Berkeley compile. The WCG Windows version points to WCG's own software library i.e. only when WCG updates this platform release will there be advice. Auto-Update... fickle, as that can upset other features of a system. Reports of the Firewall or AV killing the application for instance, as again observed by some when DSFL started arriving.
Correctly noted, the client is secondary since the science app do the work and are self-updating. --//-- |
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Former Member
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Dear Friends,
thank you for all posts. Martin Schnellinger |
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