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Privacy and Web Browsing

A recent comment by Sekerob aroused my interest. He said that even though he wiped everything and closed his browser, when he reopened it a website knew who he was, just as though he had an unwiped cookie identifying him. Since I am not (currently) wiping cookies, this took me by surprise. A quick check with Google led me to an interesting post at https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/betterprivacy/

This new addon for Firefox has a post with a number of interesting links about a new type of cookie that browsers don't know about and cannot wipe. I will quote part of the post:
Flash-cookies (Local Shared Objects, LSO) are pieces of information placed on your computer by a Flash plugin. Those Super-Cookies are placed in central system folders and so protected from deletion. They are frequently used like standard browser cookies. Although their thread potential is much higher as of conventional cookies, only few users began to take notice of them. It is of frequent occurrence that -after a time- hundreds of those Flash-cookies reside in special folders. And they won't be deleted - never.


I think it makes sense to have a permanent thread in Chat about privacy and web browsing. Enough money is involved now to pay very competent programmers to develop new ways to track people on the internet.

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Re: Privacy and Web Browsing

To add to this, the Betterprivacy add-on has been an extension in my browser since esoteric17 posted about this one in the Firefox Add-On thread. He's very diligent in teasing these security protection add-ons and other browser tweaks out and posting about them http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/...,9321_lastpage,yes#314217

Thanks eso.

edit: Just checked the BP addon options and discovered that though the setting is to wipe the flash cookies, the site I mentioned had somehow gotten into the exception list. Just hit the "Remove all LSO's button" and revisited the site and it still knows about me. angry

edit: BtB, went ahead and also added the iXQuick search engine to FF... various flavors available https://addons.mozilla.org/nl/firefox/search/...cat=all&x=11&y=18
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Re: Privacy and Web Browsing

Just also started a "Private Navigation" session, a feature of FF 3.6 and maybe IE9 too, and now it does not ''recollect'' me... it's supposed to dispose of most all after exiting. Switching back and the site identifies me again... think I'll do PN browsing allot more.

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Re: Privacy and Web Browsing

Just also started a "Private Navigation" session, a feature of FF 3.6 and maybe IE9 too, and now it does not ''recollect'' me... it's supposed to dispose of most all after exiting. Switching back and the site identifies me again... think I'll do PN browsing allot more.

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Are you also using the NoScript add on?
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Re: Privacy and Web Browsing

Yes, and I've just erased all and everything from the approval list, which sneakily included from the subject sneaker site crosslinks to:

fbcdn.net
facebook.net
facebook.com

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Re: Privacy and Web Browsing

To add to this, the Betterprivacy add-on has been an extension in my browser since esoteric17 posted about this one in the Firefox Add-On thread. He's very diligent in teasing these security protection add-ons and other browser tweaks out and posting about them http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/...,9321_lastpage,yes#314217

Thanks eso.


My pleasure! Here's my current list of privacy-oriented Firefox add-ons that I use and recommend (all described in the aforementioned thread or on the Firefox Addon page):

Adblock Plus w/subscriptions to EasyList and EasyPrivacy
Adblock Plus Pop-Up Addon
Beef Taco (Targeted Advertising Cookie Opt-Out)
Better Privacy
Certificate Patrol
Ghostery
Googlebar Lite
GoogleSharing
HTTPS-Everywhere
LastPass
NoScript
OptimizeGoogle
ToggleProxy (if using Hamachi VPN)
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Re: Privacy and Web Browsing

Lynx

Also, can't do much about the web server log which records your IP address and what objects your browser requests every time you visit unless you anonymize somehow.
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Re: Privacy and Web Browsing

How about TOR??
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Re: Privacy and Web Browsing

Little off-topic, but i'm also a little confused about the Firefox 4 sync tool. It seems to exchange virtually everything between the browsers signed in to the sync account. I only opted in for my bookmarks, nevertheless, i often get error messages because FF wasn't able to reload to last web site from the last session. Although this site had been last requested on my other PC.

And just today, i noticed something weird. Like 6 months ago, i've been playing some little online flash games written by hobby programmers. It creates cookie-like data somewhere in the AppData folder, which was rather difficult to preserve, because FF wiped them regularly. Today, i've loaded that game for the very first time on my new laptop - and the save game was there. Which means:

- the sync tool exported all that AppData files to my other box (though only opted in to bookmarks sync)
- ...and never cleared that data, although i frequently clear all browser data on both my PCs

I somehow assume that although i wipe browser data, it survives through the Firefox sync account and is (sometimes / always ?) restored. And not just to the browser which created the data, but to every browser used with the sync account.
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Re: Privacy and Web Browsing

* Tor prevents anyone from learning your location or browsing habits.
* Tor is for web browsers, instant messaging clients, remote logins, and more.
* Tor is free and open source for Windows, Mac, Linux/Unix, and Android

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Protect your privacy. Defend yourself against network surveillance and traffic analysis. https://www.torproject.org/
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