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confused What criteria determines the data in Results Status?

Searched the forums and read the articles listed in the FAQ under "S. Result Status page activities:", but couldn't find an answer to this.

What is the criteria for the data I see when I click on "Results Status" in My Grid? Is it WUs for the past 30/60/90 days? Or is it based on something other than WU age?

I'm seeing some behavior I don't understand when looking at my results on the website. This morning there were 30 pages of results listed, but when I checked a moment ago, there were only 29. Since I'm crunching away 24/7 right now, I would expect the page count to be increasing - not decreasing. Plus, there are three WUs listed from last November in my results list - but none from Dec/Jan/Feb. All besides the Nov. ones are dated 3/1/11 or newer.

Can someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks! smile
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Re: What criteria determines the data in Results Status?

It all depends on the specific project involved. Some (i.e., the zero redundancy projects - where only 1 WU is sent out), don't need to hang around in the 'front-end' database for very long, whilst others (such as HPF2, where there are multiple copies sent out), have to wait until they've reached their minimum quorum before the system can attempt to Validate them.

After the WU's have been validated (and statistics run), they're generally moved off the 'front-end' database onto a 'back-end' one, where saves are made before being batched-up and sent through to the project scientists.

As I'm sure you can imagine, with the number of WU's being returned on a daily basis, the data can very easily result into huge amounts of storage - all of which has to be managed, and thus, there are automatic procedures in place that operate even outside the 'normal working day'.

Edit : I'm intreagued by the WU's you're saying are still being listed from November. Could you paste the details into your next post, as I'm sure that this doesn't sound right...
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Re: What criteria determines the data in Results Status?

It all depends on the specific project involved...

Well, I crunched CEP2 exclusively for the last 5-6 months (sporadically) before switching over to HFCC exclusively the other day. So in my case, there's just two projects involved.
After the WU's have been validated (and statistics run), they're generally moved off the 'front-end' database onto a 'back-end' one, where saves are made before being batched-up and sent through to the project scientists.

Are you saying that once the actual crunched data is validated and sent to the scientists that the WU reporting data is removed from the site as well? That doesn't make sense to me, because my understanding of the way CEP2 works is that the crunched data is uploaded directly to Harvard servers and is never even on WCG servers. Only the WU results for CEP2 reporting make it to WCG servers (unless I'm mistaken about this).

In any case, my expectation is that I should be able to see WU results history on the WCG site for every WU sent to my machines for some period of time, because the storage requirements for reporting these results is minimal. In the case of CEP2, processing a WU might yield a 30MB file for the scientists - but reporting that result is only takes a few bytes of storage on the WCG website.

Or am I missing something?

Edit : I'm intreagued by the WU's you're saying are still being listed from November. Could you paste the details into your next post, as I'm sure that this doesn't sound right...

Here's a screenshot:


I did quite a bit of CEP2 crunching between last November and March 1st, so seeing this in my results status is, um, confusing to say the least.
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Re: What criteria determines the data in Results Status?

Hello SMTB1963,
The second post in the Results Status thread in Start Here ( https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/...hread,6105_offset,0#48791 ) says:
Notably, Results are only listed until 4 days after validation

Obviously, something is out of whack on the server to cause your last 3 results to still be visible.

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Re: What criteria determines the data in Results Status?

Hello SMTB1963,
The second post in the Results Status thread in Start Here ( https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/...hread,6105_offset,0#48791 ) says:
Notably, Results are only listed until 4 days after validation

Obviously, something is out of whack on the server to cause your last 3 results to still be visible.

Lawrence

Thanks Lawrence, I must've read right over that. Ah, the joys of old age. straight face

But it looks like I've had valid WUs sitting in my results status for more than four days (I'll see if I can confirm that). Is this even possible? Would it be accurate to say that results are listed for a minimum of four days after validation, or do you know for a fact that it's 4 days only (assuming no errors like mine)?

EDIT: I'd also be interested in knowing if the 4 day cap applies to the other status values of Error/No Reply/Invalid/Too Late/Aborted/User Aborted/Server Aborted...
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Re: What criteria determines the data in Results Status?

Stuff like this has happened to me in the past but it always seems to eventually get taken care of. Currently I have 94 pages of results dating from 1/14/2011 to 1/28/2011 still on there. Go figure.
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Re: What criteria determines the data in Results Status?

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Think this will need a little bit more qualification since when I penned that ages ago, as the practise is these weeks with 650,000 - 700,000 results daily to move completed batches much quicker such as for HCC to make space and to keep the scheduler performance up to standards. The longer the live DB, the slower it gets. Anyway think to have observed that HCC work to have moved to the master DB in 24 hours.

Long stuck results often have something in the quorum such as a "No reply", though quorum is complete. The second of the 3 slaggers clearly has that condition, but then if the quorum is complete and there are no ''error'' results either when looking at the quorum detail, it may be that there is still a result(s) out there that never finished, held by the techs or the system due an error. Given that for CEP the data is not on WCG servers, and the daily is 15k-25k opposed to 200k+ for HCC, there is a lesser urge to push this on by hand.

The 94 pages worth is probably DDDT2 or HCMD2. Nico_B's charts display longer past batches MIA. When things start slowing again I'm sure one of the techs will go on a sweeping spree :D

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Re: What criteria determines the data in Results Status?

I'm intrigued by the entry for "SolarCruncher" in SMTB1963's table.

Notice how the due timestamp is identical to the sent timestamp.

Is this the CAUSE of the 'No Reply' or is it an EFFECT?
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Re: What criteria determines the data in Results Status?

Not sure what you see, but there's 10 days exact between the 2 dates for the No Reply.

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Re: What criteria determines the data in Results Status?

I also have a CEP2 WU from november (created in october) still hanging around. No errors, no "no-reply"s, no missing wingmen:

Project Name: The Clean Energy Project - Phase 2
Created: 10/19/10
Name: E200500_184_A.24.C17H10N4SSe2.9.2.set1d06
Minimum Quorum: 2
Replication: 2

Result Name App Version Number Status Sent Time Time Due /
Return Time CPU Time (hours) Claimed/ Granted BOINC Credit
E200500_ 184_ A.24.C17H10N4SSe2.9.2.set1d06_ 1-- 619 Valid 11/5/10 08:40:48 11/5/10 18:40:01 8.43 120.2 / 106.4
E200500_ 184_ A.24.C17H10N4SSe2.9.2.set1d06_ 0-- 619 Valid 11/5/10 08:30:26 11/7/10 09:34:02 12.00 92.5 / 106.4
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