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biini
Senior Cruncher Finland Joined: Jan 25, 2007 Post Count: 334 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I ran to this weird behaviour by accident. I was debugging something else on my win7 and notices, that cpu (all cores) activity goes to zero every 25 seconds for one second. I'm not sure if this is caused by operating system of agent itself.
----------------------------------------1 second every 25 seconds mean 4% of total computing power, so it's not too much, but I was just kinda curious why this is happening. I'm running win7 x64 on all my computers, and they all behave the same way. .... and while writing this, I guess I just resolved what the "problem" actually is. I've set maximum CPU processing time on the boing settings 96% on all my computers (leaving 1% for every core for applications). It appears, that boing agent doesnt use consntalty 96% of the CPU, but 24secs 100% and for 1 sec 0% ... now THAT I didnt see coming. ![]() I'll just post this if someone else is wondering the same thing :) Cheers! |
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Former Member
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Yes, the BOINC in-build throttle is frankly numb brained stupid and not in any way designed to provide smooth computing. Rather, it is purely designed as a crude thermal control, mostly for laptops. WCG operates a default of 60% or 3 seconds running, 2 pause, which keeps those lappies reasonably cool.
----------------------------------------If temperature is a concern, set BOINC to 100% and use TThrottle (for Windows XP and up), then set the temp ceiling. When wanting some permanent headroom like I want for lackless response, use ThreadMaster GUI. I've got it set to... 96% on my laptop, which sits on a coolerpad. TMG allows individual science control as not all sciences are equally heavy. --//-- edit: Maybe knreed/WCG team would consider adding a comment to the Device Profile CPU% field "Use no more than: 60 % of processor time" Note: Only needed for laptops when a temperature concern exists" or something to that effect. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Feb 4, 2011 3:21:16 PM] |
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biini
Senior Cruncher Finland Joined: Jan 25, 2007 Post Count: 334 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I'll sure give that ThreadMaster GUI a test run!
----------------------------------------For me it seems that system is responsive enough for me, even with 100% max usage on boinc. Chatting around, listening music, and watching video atm and everything seems to be as responsive as possible. Anyway, I'd like to keep that 1% headroom for each core. Temp seems to be nothing to worry about. I've built near-silent system, with only 2 120mm fans running extremely low rpm. Core temp of my i5 seems to be around 50 degree celcius, 80-85 would get me a little worried :) Cheers! |
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Falconet
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For me it seems that system is responsive enough for me, even with 100% max usage on boinc. Chatting around, listening music, and watching video atm and everything seems to be as responsive as possible. Anyway, I'd like to keep that 1% headroom for each core. Actually you should notice a speed increase when boinc is at 100% because all cores are "activated and warmed up". At least I do. ![]() - AMD Ryzen 5 1600AF 6C/12T 3.2 GHz - 85W - AMD Ryzen 5 2500U 4C/8T 2.0 GHz - 28W - AMD Ryzen 7 7730U 8C/16T 3.0 GHz [Edit 1 times, last edit by Falconet at Feb 4, 2011 5:14:49 PM] |
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biini
Senior Cruncher Finland Joined: Jan 25, 2007 Post Count: 334 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Heh.. That's a theory :)
----------------------------------------Do you mean increase 96% vs 100% or something less against 100%? If you have not turned on core parking (in win7), I guess all your cores should be fired up all the time :) Cheers! |
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sk..
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It would be less than 96% because the cores need to start to be used again, there is a small delay before they are running normally again. Also, if the cores drop speed, then this will have to rise. Im not sure how long that takes on you i5, but it can be around 2 sec on other CPUs. If that is happening performance will be well short of 96%
Don't think you are saving on power either, you're not, and in terms of power usage per performance, you lose a right bit there too. Basically stay away from setting CPU % time usage, unless your system is overheating, and can't use better software to deal with it. |
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biini
Senior Cruncher Finland Joined: Jan 25, 2007 Post Count: 334 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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skgiven:
----------------------------------------You may be just right on that one. I bet the delay isnt exactly 1 sec, I was earlier estimating it to 1-2 secs. Anyways, powersaving on 96% vs 100% would be negligible. The reason for me using 96% instead of 100% would be 1% headroom for each core, if I suddenly started a task :) Cheers! PS. I'll keep crunching home as long as I can afford to pay power bill. And keep begging for new Xeon for work :) |
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