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I think that if I had a unlimited budget for this build I could really have some fun here. biggrin
Reality tells me that my build is not going to be the system my heart tells me I want to build. It is going to be what my pocketbook lets me build. money eyes
Even a used rampage III board on Ebay is not cheap. It would be dangerous to buy one on Ebay because of possible problems like bent pins. I have seen them listed with descriptions like "you can bend the pins back" or "one pin missing, but it still works fine". Not going to work for me so a cheaper build is in order. sad
Any input on the ASUS P6X58D-E MB? Seems OK from the write-ups and more in my price range at the moment.
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Bought the case, power supply, video cards to start with and DVD drive.

Case-HAF 932 Full tower-like the space(enough for a ATX-E, bottom placed power supply and easy placement of the water cooling radiator up top. (also lets me save some of my money for the motherboard and processor)

Power supply-Thermaltake Toughpower XT 775 watt-good starter to run the crossfire.

GPU-2 HD5850's-Good price to performance to start with.

DVD-Memorex 24X burner-Cheap at $17.99.

I will probably put a BD in as the build gets closer to completion.

now what's next? Hmmmmm thinking

Probably not much as far as some of the systems you guys have but I will slowly work my way up from impulse power to warp drive then to trans warp drive then to slipstream power. biggrin
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Case-HAF 932 Full tower-like the space(enough for a ATX-E, bottom placed power supply and easy placement of the water cooling radiator up top. (also lets me save some of my money for the motherboard and processor)

Power supply-Thermaltake Toughpower XT 775 watt-good starter to run the crossfire.


Case HAF-932 is excellent too. I have two rigs with Cooler Master boxes (Cosmos) and I am very happy with them.

Thermaltake Toughpower are also excellent. I have at least ten units in my rigs. As a new rig you should go for 80Plus Gold standard if possible.

Regarding GPU I am an unconditional Nvidia GeForce addict so no comment. wink
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Bought the case, power supply, video cards to start with and DVD drive.

Case-HAF 932 Full tower-like the space(enough for a ATX-E, bottom placed power supply and easy placement of the water cooling radiator up top. (also lets me save some of my money for the motherboard and processor)

Power supply-Thermaltake Toughpower XT 775 watt-good starter to run the crossfire.

GPU-2 HD5850's-Good price to performance to start with.

DVD-Memorex 24X burner-Cheap at $17.99.

I will probably put a BD in as the build gets closer to completion.

now what's next? Hmmmmm thinking

Probably not much as far as some of the systems you guys have but I will slowly work my way up from impulse power to warp drive then to trans warp drive then to slipstream power. biggrin

Have you decided on a CPU/mobo combo yet. I would highly recommend the new Intel Sandy Bridge stuff. FWIW mines does 15% more work on 35% less power than my i7-920.
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Hypernova, I am glad I got the power supply with the 80 plus standard now that you pointed it out and I researched it a bit. hugs (by the way, I did put a GTX470 in the wifes computor for her and it is running great) I bought the 2 5850's pretty cheap so thats why I am starting with them. I liked your idea of the 590's and did not want to put too much money into the GPU's because of the future upgrade.

nanoprobe, I was thinking LGA1366 because of the upgradability to the 6 core processors later on. Will the Sandy Bridge 1156 have the upgrade options that the 1366 has later on? confused

I am still looking at the ASUS P6X58D-E board since it seems to have good write-ups and the cost is not to bad. The price on the i7-950 would be in my budget at the moment. The 990X recomended by Hypernova would break the bank at the moment.(but it sure looks good, "as I wipe the drool from my chin" biggrin )

I am now up to my neck in this water cooling issue. I am thinking of a swiftech triple 120mm radiator up top. I would put the reservoir up top in the top 2 5.5" bays so that the fill hole was accessable to the existing case fill hole. Any thoughts on doing the GPU's also, or should I let the case fans take care of their heat? I am not sure if it would make sense, or even work to put the 2 GPU's in the same loop as the CPU on the triple radiator. Radiator/resevoir/pump/CPU/GPU/GPU. The rear fan on the case could be replaced with a single radiator but I don't know if that would be enough to cool the 2 5850's. (the single would be in addition to the triple and dedicated to the 2-GPU's) hypnotized
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I keep looking at articles here at WCG and online elsewhere on the MB-CPU combo's that are available. Lots of choices with no clear winner as far as LGA1366 / LGA1156. thinking

The 1366 support 6 core but the sandy bridge i7 uses less power and seems to be able to put out numbers close to the 1366's.
Rampage III Formula? Same as the extreme without the 4th PCIx16 slot? d oh

I would be in the 950 or maybe 970 range on the 1366. Will the sandy bridge be continuing to speed up or will intel put their money into the 1366?

It was so much easier when it was one socket for the newest intel processor and you just bought the highest speed you could afford. Now you have multiple sockets and multiple versions for each socket.

The search continues......... nerd
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I keep looking at articles here at WCG and online elsewhere on the MB-CPU combo's that are available. Lots of choices with no clear winner as far as LGA1366 / LGA1156. thinking

The 1366 support 6 core but the sandy bridge i7 uses less power and seems to be able to put out numbers close to the 1366's.
Rampage III Formula? Same as the extreme without the 4th PCIx16 slot? d oh

I would be in the 950 or maybe 970 range on the 1366. Will the sandy bridge be continuing to speed up or will intel put their money into the 1366?

It was so much easier when it was one socket for the newest intel processor and you just bought the highest speed you could afford. Now you have multiple sockets and multiple versions for each socket.

The search continues......... nerd


The new generation of CPU's for Sandy Bridge are clearly a newer generation. The same technology in a six core format will beat the 980X straight out with much less energy consumption clock per clock, and higher overclockability with less heat temps etc.. No doubt. And it is already known that an 8 core will be coming in 2012. So the 1366 socket will be the high end solution until 2012 then it is finished, there will be no new CPU's for that architecture. This seems logical, as an 8 core based on the 980X design would have a too high TDP and would be much too expensive. The Sandy Bridge Quads show that an 8 Core SB CPU is feasible at a similar or lower price of the 980X today with much better performance.
The main problem is about the motherboard compatibility. When these new 6 and 8 core CPU's will appear in 2012 will the present SB motherboards be still compatible or will a new socket/chipset needed for those top performers. For me this is the major issue. If you buy an SB solution today and you do not plan a CPU upgrade then fine SB is the answer. But if the present solution is just as a transition for the coming top CPU's mainly 8 core then it is not clear. What seems to be clear is that the 1366 is a dead end for a new build today. On the other hand a 980X is still a top performer for crunching and unbeatable on runtime scores and will stay so until 2012. The problem with Intel is that they do not hesitate to introduce new chipsets as often as they introduce CPU's. It is really a very negative marketing approach. It is as if they had a kind of partnership with motherboard manufacturers to push for motherboard renewal as often as possible.
The issue of the motherboard compatibility is not a big one if your machine is designed just to crunch full time and nothing else. Then changing CPU and motherboard and reinstall the OS, Boinc is not really an issue, done in max 1 and 1/2 hour. But if the machine is your personal desktop, then changing motherboard and CPU becomes a big issue and you do not want to do it too often. In my personal case when I change my personal desktop with a new one it takes me a full week-end to do. I do this once in two years if not obliged.
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You are right Hypernova, I like what I see about the SB. nerd

The ASUS Maximus IV Extreme Intel P67 board looks like a winner for my build but it's not available yet. I cannot find a reliable source for the availability of this MB.

I will work on the rest of the build getting it ready for the MB and maybe by that time it will release. The MB will cost big bucks but it looks like it will be offset by the lower cost of the CPU. (2600K @$320. or so) biggrin
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Dan, as socket 1155 is replacing 1156 socket 1356 will be replacing 1366. IMHO the newer sockets is the way to go. it may be worth your while to wait and see how SB plays out. I believe there will 6 and even 8 core versions before the end of 2011. The setback the Intel has had with the 1155 chipset may push the release of new 6 and 8s back some but with the 22nm Ivey Bridge chips on the horizon I would not invest in socket 1366 at this time. The only caveat to that would be if the forthcoming socket 2011 chips will work on a 1366 socket motherboard. I have read conflicting reports on that. Are we confused yet? biggrin
It's 1155 pin compatible, needs new BIOS
Intel finally came to its senses to use the same socket and make the 22nm Ivy Bridge pin and software compatible to Sandy Bridge x67 boards, and this happens to be the chipset that is affected with a huge embarrassment and SATA 2 recall bug. Now that is ironic.

The big news that P67 and H67 boards will support Ivy Bridge 22nm processors after BIOS and firmware updates is not as cool as it would have been if Intel didn’t mess these chipsets up.

Still there is a hope, as of April all boards powered with H67 and P67 will be bug free and with a BIOS update, they will be able to support Ivy Bridge 22nm processors. So once you get a functional bug free P67 or H67, you can expect to be able to plug Ivy into it and after new BIOS flash, they should just work.

This is what Intel told its various partners and this is the plan for now, but this bug can change a lot of minds and can affect just about any decision.

Intel also told to its special few that Ivy Bridge on Sugar Bay (6 series ) based platforms will require firmware and BIOS update and it also tells them that Q65, Q67 and B65 cheaper chipsets, won't support Ivy Bridge.

As we said, irony. Intel finally makes a good move and decides to keep the same socket and motherboards compatible with the future 22nm processors, only to have the platform affected by its biggest chipset recall in years.

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I am getting down to the last few hairs to pull out now. laughing

Looks like waiting for the ASUS Maximus IV Extreme Intel P67 might be a way to go. One website (excalibur pc) is taking pre-orders but they won't answer the phone right now. Hope we are not talking months here.

Gives me time to iron out the rest of the system. The cooling system and installation should take a little of my time while I wait. biggrin
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