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i_am_jim
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How can I tell which projects will make their results available to everyone vs those whose results with be kept proprietary and user for profiting the researchers?
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toss
Senior Cruncher New Zealand Joined: Jan 3, 2007 Post Count: 220 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Research We Support
World Community Grid supports research that is: * Focused on solving problems to benefit humanity; * Conducted by public or nonprofit organizations; * Contributed to the public domain; and * Accelerated by grid computing technology. As you can see there is no room here for proprietary research |
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Former Member
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Can this please be re-checked? For example the project "Computing for Clean Water" states in the FAQ:
Where will the results of this research be published? https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/research/c4cw/faq.doThe researchers expect to publish papers in a number of academic journals. Typically, Physical Review Letters and Applied Physics Letters are targeted for similar sorts of research topics. Really big breakthroughs might get into prestigious multidisciplinary journals like Science and Nature. Of course, for any publication that gets accepted, the volunteers on Computing for Clean Water will be the first to know, and will be duly acknowledged in the articles. This does not sound like public domain to me. |
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anhhai
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how does that not sound public? Are you thinking about the fact that they may have to pay $5 or $10 for a monthly subscription to those journals? If (and I mean if, since I have no idea) it is really true that they have to pay a few dollars to get a "magazine" in the mail, I and most of the world would consider it public.
----------------------------------------private = only telling the public we can do it and not tell how or the information needed for them to use it unless they buy a license which are in the millions  |
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sk..
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If the research is good enough to be published in a top Scientific Mag then that's as public as it gets; not everyone has the Internet, most Universities subscribe to the top Scientific journals, as do many Libraries, and this does not mean that the research will not be presented in many different ways on the Internet.
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Former Member
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It is not about being public or private, but about being released into the public domain as defined e. g. by the UNESCO:
Public domain information is publicly accessible information, the use of which does not infringe any legal right, or any obligation of confidentiality. It thus refers on the one hand to the realm of all works or objects of related rights, which can be exploited by everybody without any authorization, for instance because protection is not granted under national or international law, or because of the expiration of the term of protection.[â¦] Papers that are published in an academic journal like Science or Nature are usually *not* in the public domain, as the journal holds the copyright on it. Even the authors of those articles may not publish the content before the journal has made the exclusive first publication. Furthermore: a paper does not contain the raw results that are calculated by the grid. Especially those should be released into the public domain. |
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sk..
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While the journal article may belong to the mag the research and all it's data belongs to the researchers.
Under the terms of many research grants, data must be made available on request by other research groups, after publication. This can even extend to physical product such as a purified protein, bug strain or sequence. |
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i_am_jim
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If the research is good enough to be published in a top Scientific Mag then that's as public as it gets . . . Are you saying the results of published research cannot be patented or copyrighted? That a researcher who publishes cannot produce products or services for profit and use their patent or copyright to prevent others from using the these results to compete with them? |
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Former Member
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Hello I_am_jim,
Why not read the sample contract on the Submit A Proposal page at https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/research/viewSubmitAProposal.do which all researchers using the WCG grid have to sign, declaring the results in the public domain? Scientific journals, etc., are irrelevant.  Lawrence |
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X-Files 27
Senior Cruncher Canada Joined: May 21, 2007 Post Count: 391 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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If indeed a public domain, where can I get the results (cooked or uncooked data)?
----------------------------------------I wonder how easy to get a WU but processed WU is not? You have to go to a lot of loops and whatnot. You know what I mean? Like the database of proteins, I can download and study it on my own - as if am a scientist    |
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