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Former Member
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Hello Shane Austin,
The WCG staff (all IBM employees) live in the USA. We host the servers wherever IBM thinks it is cheapest for the required quality. We used to host our servers a mile up in the Colorado Rockies area. Now we have moved them to Canada, which is apparently chillier and cheaper to cool. WCG reports to Community Relations at IBM headquarters. We started when the HPF project scientists asked Oxford if the project could be hosted on the UD grid like Oxford's project. Oxford said that IBM had co-sponsored a biology project on the UD grid a year or so earlier and suggested that HPF approach IBM for funding. At least, this is the impression that I have gained from comments over the years. I do not really know the early history, so all this may just be a fantasy that I have created. Anyway, IBM liked the idea but decided to establish their own grid that they controlled and actively search for new computer projects to support that met their standards of open non-proprietary disclosure of results to the public domain for all to use, with humanitarian goals potentially serving broad swathes of mankind. Since UD was experienced in grid computing, we supported co-hosting the HPF project on both the UD grid and the new WCG grid. WCG started by cloning the UD setup and modifying the database to meet IBM standards. After a year's experience, IBM decided to switch to BOINC. For a while, we ran both BOINC and UD versions of projects. We had to modify the BOINC server software to make it compatible with the existing UD server software, so it was not just a simple clone job. Eventually we turned off the UD software and went all BOINC. Which means you should ignore the UNIVA web page (Thanks for showing it to me. It has been years since I read anything by UD, except when they shut down their grid. Instead, you should look at BOINC at http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ We have been so busy supporting projects that we have never been able to replace our hacked version of BOINC server software with the standard BOINC server software. Which is another way of stating that we are stretching dollars till they screech to accomplish our main priority. Come Monday the WCG staff will read your post and hopefully contemplate the About Us page. It might even lead to a Change entry, though the 2011 schedule has a number of priorities, so it is unlikely to be quickly scheduled. Lawrence |
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Shane Austin
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Lawrence, lets hope the WCG staff read this post. We need to be more transparent to new users. I think my point highlights that even the smallest change can drive traffic to the WCG site AND keep it there i.e get new users signed up :)
Shane |
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Lawrence, lets hope the WCG staff read this post. We need to be more transparent to new users. I think my point highlights that even the smallest change can drive traffic to the WCG site AND keep it there i.e get new users signed up :) Shane Shane, Thanks for question and Lawrence did a good job explaining the whole thing. We are not in hiding ... we don't like to flaunt who we are. The focus is on World Community Grid, not our employer. Click on the IBM logo on the home page if you need more information. In your first post in this thread you said that many of your friends would join if they knew. Let us know how many of your friends joined now that they know it's IBM. |
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Shane Austin
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bbover3, I understand if you don't want to flaunt it, especially when Laurence quotes "we are stretching dollars till they screech to accomplish our main priority".
As the saying goes “do not light a candle and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick”...more friends and family would join if we were a teeny more transparent...these are internet security conscious days we live in, and people crave transparency online. Keep up the good work. Shane P.S. I think I can sign up at least 5 friends plus my dad on his crappy old Atom nettop computer ;) |
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ebattleon
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Hmm...WCG is basically under-staffed so web pages will take time to change, at least that is how i read it. The wheels of change grind so slowly, I guess the WCG staff need a blog of their experiences, maybe that will help?
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knreed
Former World Community Grid Tech Joined: Nov 8, 2004 Post Count: 4504 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I think that there is a bit of mis-understanding in this thread. As I read it, folks are looking for the names of the specific individuals who work on this initiative. While there are some of us who work full-time on the project there is also a significant number of additional people who work periodically on the project. We have application developers, database administrators, system administrators, security experts, researchers, marketing, project support, software group staff, etc that have been involved in the project.
----------------------------------------In all there are probably 40-50 people that have contributed directly to World Community Grid, some technical, some in others ways, at some point during the almost 6 years it has been around. Although there is a small full time core team, we do use the breadth of resources of IBM for specific expertise as we need it. It would not be appropriate for us to only single out only those of us who get the opportunity to work full time on this project. That is why we say that it is sponsored by IBM and do not go further. [Edit 1 times, last edit by knreed at Nov 9, 2010 2:33:59 PM] |
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Dataman
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Good explanation. And all this time I thought it was because of all those groupies that would be hanging around wanting autographs and favours.
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