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Hypernova
Master Cruncher Audaces Fortuna Juvat ! Vaud - Switzerland Joined: Dec 16, 2008 Post Count: 1908 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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As I mentioned in a previous post I just finished building a new device.
----------------------------------------Name: Pandora CPU: I7 950 Overclocked to 3.5 Ghz Memory: 4 GB Ram DDR3 Corsair 1600 Mhz Mainboard: Asus GeneII (X58 chipset) HDD: WD Raptor 150 GB (10'000 rpm) PSU: Thermaltake 675 Watt Wireless Lan: Belkin USB Box: Silverstone mini-tower OS: Linux Ubuntu 10.04 64 bit. Ok. Ubuntu is free no cost. I downloaded and burnt it on a CD. Installation was a breeze. Nice. Now the rest is a nightmare. First I need to connect to my Wireless Lan. As I did with all my windows machines, I plugged a Belkin USB WI-FI emitter. No way Linux does not detect it. When I put the installation disk with the drivers, Linux does show the disk, and I can browse it. But it is impossible to execute it. Linux does detect that there is an autorun feature on the disk but if I try to have the setup.exe file manually executed then after a few seconds I get a completely incomprehensible error message. So I am stuck and starting to wonder if I should go back to windows. I hope that I do not need to buy special Linux compatible hardware and software. Any ideas Sek? ![]() |
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Former Member
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Ubuntu will not install a .exe without the use of Wine. I wouldn't go this route though. What is the model of the Belkin USB Wifi? You will need to install the drivers specifically for Linux(deb)
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RaymondFO
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Nov 30, 2004 Post Count: 561 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Hypernova,
----------------------------------------The problem with any Linux OS is the fact you sometimes need proprietary drivers to properly operate various devices. You may have to go to Belkin's WEB site and see if they support Linux (deb) with the appropriate drivers/software. Without that software, it may never work properly. Before you go to the WEB site go to: System>Administration>Hardware Drivers to see if this can install the drivers/software required? I did this to install the video card drivers to achieve full functionality as the Linux developers cannot reverse engineer proprietary drivers that do not have a public source code. [Edit 1 times, last edit by RaymondFO at Sep 25, 2010 4:12:44 AM] |
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kateiacy
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Jan 23, 2010 Post Count: 1027 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Hypernova, Before you go to the WEB site did go to: System>Administration>Hardware Drivers to see if this can install the drivers/software required? I did this to install the video card drivers to achieve full functionality as the Linux developers cannot reverse engineer proprietary drivers that do not have a public source code. I was about to suggest this when I read Hypernova's message, but I see RaymondFO beat me to it. Hypernova, be sure to run the Ubuntu Update-Manager (also under System>Administration) before you do the above instructions. Not only does that make sure your system is up-to-date with anything that has been added/fixed in Ubuntu, but it seems to make a newly-installed Ubuntu operating system really look at the hardware and recognize proprietary drivers it needs. ![]() |
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codes
Advanced Cruncher Joined: Oct 20, 2009 Post Count: 142 Status: Offline |
... be sure to run the Ubuntu Update-Manager ... How's this going to happen without the drivers for the wifi connection? Needs to connect via hardwire first, no? Or copy driver(s) via portable external device. |
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Hypernova
Master Cruncher Audaces Fortuna Juvat ! Vaud - Switzerland Joined: Dec 16, 2008 Post Count: 1908 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Thank's to all for your help.
----------------------------------------codes, maybe you are right. Better first to have a hardwired connection and then move to wifi. Let's see what I will find in this box ![]() ![]() |
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Sekerob
Ace Cruncher Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Post Count: 20043 Status: Offline |
Summary of stuffs:
----------------------------------------- Hardwire first so you can get any updates and patches - The wireless should be plugged in prior to boot up for hardware recognition to work, but for me it does work (Belkin N1 Express and D-Link G and N). - Open the network preferences and manually add the wlan0 connection, set the SSID, router address and a preferred IP and DNS, but opposed to Windows you can let that part still to be automatically found even when the device IP is manually set. - Possibly you've got to resort to installing ndiswrapper from the Synaptic repository which is a tool to use windows drivers in the Linux environment. I got several apps installed from Synaptic and of course set auto-reconnect (not meaning you need them all, but I'm not going to un-install anything and break what's not). - Network Manager Applet v. 0.80 is attached to the panel bar (windows speak for start bar) - Ndiswrapper - Windows Wireless Drivers - WICD Network Manager - WiFi Radar - Wireless Network Tools Read allot, but on the last clean rebuild (destroyed grub), with the D-Link G plugged in, it was all running and connecting by itself (of course had to enter the WPA-PSK2 passkey). Then refined the settings later to only allow my SSID and devices with authorized mac codes. See the "confez" thread for past grumps and moans in WIFI under Linux.
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Hypernova
Master Cruncher Audaces Fortuna Juvat ! Vaud - Switzerland Joined: Dec 16, 2008 Post Count: 1908 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Thank you all for your support.
----------------------------------------I fought a whole afternoon and gave up. I got driver conflicts even with my basic video card from Nvidia GT220. For an uknown reason Ubuntu decided that it's own driver had "incompatibilities", it switched the display screen in a "low resolution mode" which made the main display screen enlarged so that to see the whole sreen say top and bottom bar I had to scroll. The error and incompatibility messages are not understandable for me in this completely new world. When I did put a direct ethernet cable I got the connection and could go over the internet with firefox. That worked. But I need a wireless where this machine will stay. Regarding the Belkin I could find drivers for some of the chipsets that are in the USB Key and not for others. Mine is a very new model dual band for which I found nothing. When I checked for the hardware and drivers the System Administrator said no problem and did have an issue with the Nvidia graphic card, and then installed a driver that went weird. Regarding the USB wifi key no way it is not seen. I tried manually to acces the USB key and I had some success with the Network manager but I ended up with a lot of network data to be put in manually and for which I have no idea. And my home installation is not simple: three routers and two wireless networks. To conclude I decided to switch to W7 and shortly everything was fine and Pandora is online crunching happily. Now what lesson to take from this interesting experience. If my unit was just hardwired then probably things would have worked as I would just have to download BOINC and launch it and that's all. Could be that it is not as simple. I will not make any judgment on Ubuntu and Linux, but for a full newcomer it means that you must really go deep into the stuff and probably spend a lot of time until you really understand what is going on and have things work happily. There is no free lunch. W7 is expensive but you get something for it. Linux is probably ideal if you just use the office package and browse the internet on a hardwired connection. For many people it is enough and you get all that for free. The problem is when you have an issue what to do next. I was a highly computer literate even if I stopped practicing professionally 16 years ago, and I have difficulties, but imagine the problems for those who are not. For companies with servers or datacenters they have paid professionals to deal with, and it makes sense to use Linux because you multiply it on hundreds of units and you can have huge economies of scale. Unfortunately I do not have a lot of time to devote to become a Linux literate and I decide to choose the most comfortable solution: pay and go back into the world I know. Sorry for that, but what is important is to crunch. And these days temps are going down and I want to make the maximum of it. If it goes well I should hit >500'000 points by tomorrow. ![]() ![]() |
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codes
Advanced Cruncher Joined: Oct 20, 2009 Post Count: 142 Status: Offline |
Sorry to hear about your Linux attempt pain. Getting drivers and devices to work is the biggest trouble spot for most new Linux users IMO. If the devices are supported right out the box, today's Linux GUI install PNP processes is tons better than what it was 5 to 10 years ago. When I first starting using Linux 10 years ago, practically every device had to be configured manually using a text editor. It was even more of pain just trying to learn to navigate around the UNIX file structure looking for the appropriate configuration file. I had to manually edit X server configuration files just to get the monitor, keyboard, mouse, video card to display the GUI correctly without crashing. What fun days.
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Former Member
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FoxTester: Easy Way To Try Or Install Any Firefox Version In Ubuntu (Including Firefox 4)--- http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/foxtester-easy-way-to-try-or-install.html
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