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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
[15:16:24] Starting new Job [15:16:24] Qink name = fldman [15:16:24] Qink name = gesman [15:16:24] Qink name = scfman [15:26:30] Qink name = anlman [15:26:30] Qink name = drvman [15:29:10] Qink name = optman [15:29:10] Qink name = fldman [15:29:10] Qink name = gesman [15:29:11] Qink name = scfman [15:40:45] Qink name = anlman [15:40:45] Qink name = drvman [15:42:45] Qink name = optman [15:42:45] Qink name = fldman [15:42:45] Qink name = gesman [15:42:45] Qink name = scfman [16:20:12] Qink name = anlman [16:20:12] Qink name = drvman [16:33:02] Qink name = optman [16:33:02] Qink name = fldman [16:33:02] Qink name = gesman [16:33:03] Qink name = scfman [16:43:06] Qink name = anlman [16:43:06] Qink name = drvman [16:45:02] Qink name = optman [16:45:02] Qink name = fldman [16:45:02] Qink name = gesman [16:45:02] Qink name = scfman [16:54:06] Qink name = anlman [16:54:06] Qink name = drvman [16:56:02] Qink name = optman [16:56:02] Qink name = fldman [16:56:02] Qink name = gesman [16:56:03] Qink name = scfman [17:03:30] Qink name = anlman [17:03:30] Qink name = drvman [17:05:26] Qink name = optman [17:05:26] Qink name = fldman [17:05:26] Qink name = gesman [17:05:26] Qink name = scfman [17:12:10] Qink name = anlman [17:12:10] Qink name = drvman [17:14:05] Qink name = optman [17:14:05] Qink name = anlman [17:14:26] End of Job [17:14:28] Finished Job #2 [17:14:28] Starting job 3,CPU time has been restored to 188.833292. 64 additional seconds in about 2 hours... That's just plain wierd. Sure you didn't have BOINC set to suspend if it detects any CPU usage? e.g. In Preferences, on the processor usage tab, by "While processor usage is less than" - any number other than 0 can result in it suspending the crunching, though the elapsed time clock continues to run. I have BOINC 6.10.45 running on a couple quads under fc12 here, and my CPU times have been within 90% of the elapsed time since I was told about that setting and changed it to 0. Seems like the default for that was 25%, and it suspends all cores if it detects that usage on ANY core. With GKrellem running, I could watch the load on all 4 cores at once and just wiggling the mouse around would make one core momentarily spike over 25%, causing all cores to pause. |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
RW CD/DVDs are your friend. I suggest 9.10 for a stable OS. 10.04 is still getting an awful lot of upgrades.
They postponed tthe release of 10.04.1 (1st step release of an LTS) from 7-29 to 8-19. That release is supposed to come when most of the early release bugs are fixed. This has not happened yet so they put it off. You can upgrade when it is a little better off. 10.10-testing, right now, is more stable on my box than 10.04 is. Of coarse that is subject to more change and possible killer upgrades than 10.04 is. |
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Sekerob
Ace Cruncher Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Post Count: 20043 Status: Offline |
You've got strange client, ZoSo. I've tested this on several clients, latest 6.10.58 from GetDeb and when that kicks in, the jobs show as 'suspended' in the client GUI task status column and the Elapsed stops counting as it should. The default is indeed 25% for that setting, but will not be surprise if the WCG kit comes outfor windows, the clean installers will see a higher value.
----------------------------------------I fail to see where you get the 64 seconds. What you see in the CEP2 log are wallclock times when the line entries are made. If the <checkpoint_debug> log flag is set in the cc_config.xml each checkpoint entry should correspond to a job end time in the Result Log, and they do. Maybe a none-elapse recording client could be tried. 5.10.45 springs to mind without these distracting GPU bells which turned the client all wooshie. Then when the job 'runs' it should be obvious if the time goes funkie and when it keeps pace with the wallclock. Open a BM in Tasks tab and a second one in Messages, tiled so both can be watched simultaneous, with the said checkpoint_debug flag on. Maybe that exposes something.
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
RW CD/DVDs are your friend. [snip] Or 4GB and larger USB sticks. How To Install Fedora 10/11/12 from a 4GB USB stick The title may say 10/11/12, but I don't see anything in the instructions that shouldn't work for fc13 too (and fc14 when it comes out of rawhide). And about any other distribution (not just fedora). With 4GB sticks costing about the same or less than shipping charges, the biggest drawback would be possibly having a computer that can't be booted from a USB drive. |
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Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
You've got strange client, ZoSo. I can't help that... the person who makes the BOINC RPMs for fedora's updates repo doesn't actually run BOINC, and their script packages up the latest version available from the SVNs (instead of the "latest recommended" as noted on the human download page)... except they haven't run their script since April, so the latest version fedora users have available via their package managers (PackageKit/YUM/YUMex) is 6.10.45... the only way to get the latest recommended is to make our own RPMs from source, apparently. I fail to see where you get the 64 seconds. I was thinking the 'reset CPU time to' was the accumulated CPU time in seconds, but I see at the end that would mean almost 16 hours of CPU time (when it actually finished in about 11.5 hours). Sorry... my bad. |
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JmBoullier
Former Community Advisor Normandy - France Joined: Jan 26, 2007 Post Count: 3716 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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64 additional seconds in about 2 hours... ZoSo,That's just plain wierd. Sure you didn't have BOINC set to suspend if it detects any CPU usage? codes' problem is not how long it takes to process a given job, and all various BOINC CPU usage settings are affecting only this wallclock time. The problem here is that the restored CPU times are ridiculously low. After viewing many CEP2 Result Logs I can say that there is no way that a machine, even the fastest one, passes the "end of job #2" mark in 189 seconds. Times I am seeing for a Q6600 OCed at 3 GHz range between 1500 and 2200 seconds, which means that codes' processor would need to be clocked at about 30 GHz to give such amazing results. There is definitely another problem in the CPU time recording in these WUs when used in codes' configurations, and I hope that the techs will find a clue to fix it. ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by JmBoullier at Aug 2, 2010 6:25:26 AM] |
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codes
Advanced Cruncher Joined: Oct 20, 2009 Post Count: 142 Status: Offline |
A different computer, same low CPU time problem.
----------------------------------------GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8500 @ 3.16GHz [Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 10] E200222_ 695_ A.22.C16H8N2O2SSi.27.set1d06_ 0-- 619 Valid 8/2/10 16:07:46 8/3/10 03:19:00 1.55 <== Me E200222_ 695_ A.22.C16H8N2O2SSi.27.set1d06_ 1-- 619 Valid 8/2/10 15:59:10 8/3/10 01:06:58 8.79 <core_client_version>6.10.17</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <stderr_txt> INFO: No state to restore. Start from the beginning. [17:54:53] Number of jobs = 16 [17:54:53] Starting job 0,CPU time has been restored to 0.000000. [17:54:53] Starting new Job [17:54:53] Qink name = fldman [17:54:53] Qink name = gesman [17:54:53] Qink name = scfman [17:56:27] Qink name = anlman [17:56:28] End of Job [17:56:30] Finished Job #0 [17:56:30] Starting job 1,CPU time has been restored to 39.940928. [17:56:30] Starting new Job [17:56:30] Qink name = fldman [17:56:31] Qink name = gesman [17:56:31] Qink name = scfman [18:00:51] Qink name = anlman [18:01:00] End of Job [18:01:03] Finished Job #1 [18:01:03] Starting job 2,CPU time has been restored to 94.561624. [18:01:03] Starting new Job [18:01:03] Qink name = fldman [18:01:03] Qink name = gesman [18:01:03] Qink name = scfman [18:04:26] Qink name = anlman [18:04:26] Qink name = drvman [18:05:20] Qink name = optman [18:05:20] Qink name = fldman [18:05:20] Qink name = gesman [18:05:20] Qink name = scfman [18:11:43] Qink name = anlman [18:11:43] Qink name = drvman [18:12:37] Qink name = optman [18:12:37] Qink name = fldman [18:12:37] Qink name = gesman [18:12:37] Qink name = scfman [18:18:59] Qink name = anlman [18:18:59] Qink name = drvman [18:19:53] Qink name = optman [18:19:53] Qink name = fldman [18:19:53] Qink name = gesman [18:19:53] Qink name = scfman [18:25:42] Qink name = anlman [18:25:42] Qink name = drvman [18:26:36] Qink name = optman [18:26:36] Qink name = fldman [18:26:36] Qink name = gesman [18:26:36] Qink name = scfman [18:31:38] Qink name = anlman [18:31:38] Qink name = drvman [18:32:31] Qink name = optman [18:32:31] Qink name = fldman [18:32:31] Qink name = gesman [18:32:32] Qink name = scfman [18:37:05] Qink name = anlman [18:37:05] Qink name = drvman [18:37:58] Qink name = optman [18:37:58] Qink name = fldman [18:37:58] Qink name = gesman [18:37:58] Qink name = scfman [18:42:26] Qink name = anlman [18:42:26] Qink name = drvman [18:43:20] Qink name = optman [18:43:20] Qink name = anlman [18:43:28] End of Job [18:43:31] Finished Job #2 [18:43:31] Starting job 3,CPU time has been restored to 147.422587. [18:43:31] Starting new Job [18:43:31] Qink name = fldman [18:43:32] Qink name = gesman [18:43:32] Qink name = scfman [18:49:09] Qink name = anlman [18:49:18] End of Job [18:49:21] Finished Job #3 [18:49:21] Starting job 4,CPU time has been restored to 198.092883. [18:49:21] Starting new Job [18:49:21] Qink name = fldman [18:49:21] Qink name = gesman [18:49:21] Qink name = scfman [18:52:18] Qink name = anlman [18:52:27] End of Job [18:52:30] Finished Job #4 [18:52:30] Starting job 5,CPU time has been restored to 277.708779. [18:52:30] Starting new Job [18:52:30] Qink name = fldman [18:52:30] Qink name = gesman [18:52:30] Qink name = scfman [18:55:54] Qink name = anlman [18:56:03] End of Job [18:56:06] Finished Job #5 [18:56:06] Starting job 6,CPU time has been restored to 343.507776. [18:56:06] Starting new Job [18:56:06] Qink name = fldman [18:56:06] Qink name = gesman [18:56:06] Qink name = scfman [18:58:59] Qink name = anlman [18:59:08] End of Job [18:59:11] Finished Job #6 [18:59:11] Starting job 7,CPU time has been restored to 422.122824. [18:59:11] Starting new Job [18:59:11] Qink name = fldman [18:59:11] Qink name = gesman [18:59:11] Qink name = scfman [19:03:40] Qink name = anlman [19:03:49] End of Job [19:03:51] Finished Job #7 [19:03:51] Starting job 8,CPU time has been restored to 493.992898. [19:03:51] Starting new Job [19:03:52] Qink name = fldman [19:03:52] Qink name = gesman [19:03:52] Qink name = scfman [19:06:24] Qink name = anlman [19:06:33] End of Job [19:06:36] Finished Job #8 [19:06:36] Starting job 9,CPU time has been restored to 584.115197. [19:06:36] Starting new Job [19:06:36] Qink name = fldman [19:06:36] Qink name = gesman [19:06:36] Qink name = scfman [19:09:52] Qink name = anlman [19:10:12] End of Job [19:10:16] Finished Job #9 [19:10:16] Starting job 10,CPU time has been restored to 666.665647. [19:10:16] Starting new Job [19:10:16] Qink name = fldman [19:10:16] Qink name = gesman [19:10:16] Qink name = scfman [19:17:52] Qink name = anlman [19:18:11] End of Job [19:18:14] Finished Job #10 [19:18:14] Starting job 11,CPU time has been restored to 741.247308. [19:18:14] Starting new Job [19:18:14] Qink name = fldman [19:18:15] Qink name = gesman [19:18:15] Qink name = scfman [19:22:28] Qink name = anlman [19:22:47] End of Job [19:22:50] Finished Job #11 [19:22:50] Starting job 12,CPU time has been restored to 807.703205. [19:22:50] Starting new Job [19:22:50] Qink name = fldman [19:22:52] Qink name = gesman [19:22:52] Qink name = scfman [20:06:18] Qink name = anlman [20:08:19] End of Job [20:08:25] Finished Job #12 [20:08:25] Starting job 13,CPU time has been restored to 883.461687. [20:08:26] Starting new Job [20:08:26] Qink name = fldman [20:08:28] Qink name = gesman [20:08:29] Qink name = scfman [20:59:25] Qink name = anlman [21:01:18] End of Job [21:01:22] Finished Job #13 [21:01:22] Starting job 14,CPU time has been restored to 968.019832. [21:01:23] Starting new Job [21:01:23] Qink name = fldman [21:01:26] Qink name = gesman [21:01:26] Qink name = scfman [21:54:02] Qink name = anlman [21:55:57] End of Job [21:56:01] Finished Job #14 [21:56:01] Starting job 15,CPU time has been restored to 1051.725106. [21:56:02] Starting new Job [21:56:02] Qink name = fldman [21:56:05] Qink name = gesman [21:56:05] Qink name = scfman [23:08:01] Qink name = anlman [23:12:10] End of Job [23:12:14] Finished Job #15 called boinc_finish Exiting 0 </stderr_txt> ]]> Three different computers and three different Linux distros. I installed Ubuntu on my slower Celeron computer and am still waiting on the CEP2 WU to finish. That will be my fourth Linux distro. "Run Always" is set under the Boinc Manager "Activity" menu. The device profile is set to "Maximum Output". No errors in the Boinc messages or computer system logs. The only thing common in all of this is my WCG account and it's "Default" device profile. So if the Ubuntu CEP2 WU finishes with another low CPU time, I will then create a new WCG account to see if that makes any difference. Generated Results Returned Total Run Time (y:d:h:m:s) Badges Earned The Clean Energy Project - Phase 2 13,319 30 0:001:23:03:38 30 results returned for a total 1 Day 23 Hours. That would be an average 1.56 Hours CPU time, JUST WRONG. ![]() [Edit 1 times, last edit by codes at Aug 3, 2010 12:42:07 PM] |
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codes
Advanced Cruncher Joined: Oct 20, 2009 Post Count: 142 Status: Offline |
Here's my Ubuntu processed CEP2 WU on my Celeron CPU. Interesting, looks like the CPU time is accurate.
----------------------------------------Maybe CEP2 is biased in favor of Ubuntu? E200223_ 512_ A.22.C16H8N2S2SeSi.47.2.set1d06_ 1-- 619 Valid 8/2/10 23:54:05 8/3/10 20:14:32 12.00 <== Me E200223_ 512_ A.22.C16H8N2S2SeSi.47.2.set1d06_ 0-- 619 Valid 8/2/10 23:54:03 8/3/10 09:19:08 8.86 <core_client_version>6.10.17</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <stderr_txt> INFO: No state to restore. Start from the beginning. [19:57:19] Number of jobs = 16 [19:57:19] Starting job 0,CPU time has been restored to 0.000000. [19:57:19] Starting new Job [19:57:20] Qink name = fldman [19:57:20] Qink name = gesman [19:57:20] Qink name = scfman [20:00:06] Qink name = anlman [20:00:08] End of Job [20:00:10] Finished Job #0 [20:00:10] Starting job 1,CPU time has been restored to 134.404399. [20:00:10] Starting new Job [20:00:10] Qink name = fldman [20:00:11] Qink name = gesman [20:00:11] Qink name = scfman [20:03:23] Number of jobs = 16 [20:03:23] Starting job 1,CPU time has been restored to 134.404399. [20:03:25] Starting new Job [20:03:25] Qink name = fldman [20:03:26] Qink name = gesman [20:03:26] Qink name = scfman [20:11:47] Qink name = anlman [20:12:08] End of Job [20:12:11] Finished Job #1 [20:12:11] Starting job 2,CPU time has been restored to 622.022873. [20:12:11] Starting new Job [20:12:11] Qink name = fldman [20:12:12] Qink name = gesman [20:12:12] Qink name = scfman [20:18:55] Qink name = anlman [20:18:55] Qink name = drvman [20:21:01] Qink name = optman [20:21:01] Qink name = fldman [20:21:01] Qink name = gesman [20:21:01] Qink name = scfman [20:32:30] Qink name = anlman [20:32:30] Qink name = drvman [20:34:24] Qink name = optman [20:34:24] Qink name = fldman [20:34:24] Qink name = gesman [20:34:24] Qink name = scfman [20:45:27] Qink name = anlman [20:45:27] Qink name = drvman [20:47:20] Qink name = optman [20:47:20] Qink name = fldman [20:47:20] Qink name = gesman [20:47:21] Qink name = scfman [20:58:24] Qink name = anlman [20:58:24] Qink name = drvman [21:00:19] Qink name = optman [21:00:19] Qink name = fldman [21:00:19] Qink name = gesman [21:00:20] Qink name = scfman [21:11:09] Qink name = anlman [21:11:09] Qink name = drvman [21:13:04] Qink name = optman [21:13:04] Qink name = fldman [21:13:04] Qink name = gesman [21:13:04] Qink name = scfman [21:22:55] Qink name = anlman [21:22:55] Qink name = drvman [21:24:50] Qink name = optman [21:24:50] Qink name = fldman [21:24:50] Qink name = gesman [21:24:51] Qink name = scfman [21:34:00] Qink name = anlman [21:34:00] Qink name = drvman [21:35:54] Qink name = optman [21:35:54] Qink name = fldman [21:35:54] Qink name = gesman [21:35:55] Qink name = scfman [21:44:50] Qink name = anlman [21:44:50] Qink name = drvman [21:46:44] Qink name = optman [21:46:45] Qink name = fldman [21:46:45] Qink name = gesman [21:46:45] Qink name = scfman [21:54:57] Qink name = anlman [21:54:57] Qink name = drvman [21:56:52] Qink name = optman [21:56:52] Qink name = fldman [21:56:52] Qink name = gesman [21:56:53] Qink name = scfman [22:05:11] Qink name = anlman [22:05:11] Qink name = drvman [22:07:05] Qink name = optman [22:07:05] Qink name = fldman [22:07:05] Qink name = gesman [22:07:06] Qink name = scfman [22:15:02] Qink name = anlman [22:15:02] Qink name = drvman [22:16:56] Qink name = optman [22:16:56] Qink name = fldman [22:16:56] Qink name = gesman [22:16:57] Qink name = scfman [22:24:15] Qink name = anlman [22:24:16] Qink name = drvman [22:26:10] Qink name = optman [22:26:10] Qink name = fldman [22:26:10] Qink name = gesman [22:26:11] Qink name = scfman [22:33:30] Qink name = anlman [22:33:30] Qink name = drvman [22:35:24] Qink name = optman [22:35:24] Qink name = fldman [22:35:24] Qink name = gesman [22:35:25] Qink name = scfman [22:42:03] Qink name = anlman [22:42:04] Qink name = drvman [22:43:58] Qink name = optman [22:43:58] Qink name = fldman [22:43:58] Qink name = gesman [22:43:59] Qink name = scfman [22:50:35] Qink name = anlman [22:50:35] Qink name = drvman [22:52:30] Qink name = optman [22:52:30] Qink name = anlman [22:52:51] End of Job [22:52:54] Finished Job #2 [22:52:54] Starting job 3,CPU time has been restored to 9665.372047. [22:52:54] Starting new Job [22:52:54] Qink name = fldman [22:52:54] Qink name = gesman [22:52:55] Qink name = scfman [23:02:14] Qink name = anlman [23:02:36] End of Job [23:02:38] Finished Job #3 [23:02:38] Starting job 4,CPU time has been restored to 10204.477739. [23:02:38] Starting new Job [23:02:38] Qink name = fldman [23:02:39] Qink name = gesman [23:02:39] Qink name = scfman [23:08:54] Qink name = anlman [23:09:16] End of Job [23:09:18] Finished Job #4 [23:09:18] Starting job 5,CPU time has been restored to 10576.068962. [23:09:18] Starting new Job [23:09:18] Qink name = fldman [23:09:19] Qink name = gesman [23:09:19] Qink name = scfman [23:16:01] Qink name = anlman [23:16:22] End of Job [23:16:25] Finished Job #5 [23:16:25] Starting job 6,CPU time has been restored to 10974.277848. [23:16:25] Starting new Job [23:16:25] Qink name = fldman [23:16:26] Qink name = gesman [23:16:26] Qink name = scfman [23:22:38] Qink name = anlman [23:23:00] End of Job [23:23:02] Finished Job #6 [23:23:02] Starting job 7,CPU time has been restored to 11343.772940. [23:23:02] Starting new Job [23:23:02] Qink name = fldman [23:23:03] Qink name = gesman [23:23:03] Qink name = scfman [23:32:49] Qink name = anlman [23:33:11] End of Job [23:33:14] Finished Job #7 [23:33:14] Starting job 8,CPU time has been restored to 11925.729310. [23:33:14] Starting new Job [23:33:14] Qink name = fldman [23:33:15] Qink name = gesman [23:33:15] Qink name = scfman [23:39:24] Qink name = anlman [23:39:46] End of Job [23:39:49] Finished Job #8 [23:39:49] Starting job 9,CPU time has been restored to 12300.540734. [23:39:49] Starting new Job [23:39:49] Qink name = fldman [23:39:50] Qink name = gesman [23:39:50] Qink name = scfman [23:47:20] Qink name = anlman [23:47:59] End of Job [23:48:02] Finished Job #9 [23:48:02] Starting job 10,CPU time has been restored to 12759.545420. [23:48:02] Starting new Job [23:48:02] Qink name = fldman [23:48:02] Qink name = gesman [23:48:02] Qink name = scfman [00:07:15] Qink name = anlman [00:07:59] End of Job [00:08:02] Finished Job #10 [00:08:02] Starting job 11,CPU time has been restored to 13910.469348. [00:08:03] Starting new Job [00:08:03] Qink name = fldman [00:08:03] Qink name = gesman [00:08:03] Qink name = scfman [00:16:42] Qink name = anlman [00:17:24] End of Job [00:17:26] Finished Job #11 [00:17:26] Starting job 12,CPU time has been restored to 14432.525974. [00:17:26] Starting new Job [00:17:26] Qink name = fldman [00:17:29] Qink name = gesman [00:17:30] Qink name = scfman [01:24:03] Qink name = anlman [01:28:18] End of Job [01:28:21] Finished Job #12 [01:28:21] Starting job 13,CPU time has been restored to 18511.064866. [01:28:21] Starting new Job [01:28:21] Qink name = fldman [01:28:24] Qink name = gesman [01:28:25] Qink name = scfman [03:49:28] Qink name = anlman [03:53:36] End of Job [03:53:39] Finished Job #13 [03:53:39] Starting job 14,CPU time has been restored to 27008.359913. [03:53:40] Starting new Job [03:53:40] Qink name = fldman [03:53:43] Qink name = gesman [03:53:43] Qink name = scfman [06:13:41] Qink name = anlman [06:17:53] End of Job [06:17:56] Finished Job #14 [06:17:56] Starting job 15,CPU time has been restored to 35428.966168. [06:17:56] Starting new Job [06:17:57] Qink name = fldman [06:18:00] Qink name = gesman [06:18:00] Qink name = scfman Killing job because cpu time has been exceeded. Subjob start time = -354867378, Subjob current time = 1088507038 [08:29:08] Finished Job #15 called boinc_finish Exiting 0 </stderr_txt> ]]> [Edit 2 times, last edit by codes at Aug 3, 2010 9:46:37 PM] |
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JmBoullier
Former Community Advisor Normandy - France Joined: Jan 26, 2007 Post Count: 3716 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Too bad for your time that you had not started straight with the most widely used Linux distro...
---------------------------------------- But interesting for our knowledge of the other ones. I hope somebody will be able to find which routine is different in the distros which failed. Still, this is looking very strange. |
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codes
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I've installed Ubuntu on the computer Pentium Dual 2.6 GHz I first started CEP2 with, will see if it reports correct CPU time.
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