That would not cost anything but credibility.
And you can be certain that grids which have already not hesitated to not follow Berkeley's recommendations on credit rates for attracting racers would not hesitate to push their rates again to stay ahead of that competition. So where would that end?

Cheers. Jean.

** Have removed the irrelevant example. As Sekerob has already explained WCG points are derived from BOINC credits, not the opposite.

Yes.

It must be handled with a BOINC-wide approach and it can't be an option, that WCG participates in inflation by giving users more credits for the same work.

The question is: When will the new credit system be implemented?

Best regards from Germany
crille

I crunch here and at Collatz, (and a bit at gpugrid).

I sense some disdain at the fact that people devote their computational resources to non-disease related sections. Honestly, it is an elitist thing to assume that WCG contributes to humanity and also in a somewhat underhanded manner imply Collatz is a waste of resources. Collatz is a very elegant app, and it is very efficient. It might not be applicable to some disease but it is exact. These are not models and simulations, this is pure number theoretic operation. The project returns very little data per result (a hundred bytes or so), but the data is exceptionally easy to read and assimilate.

One might argue that understanding this mathematical conjecture is less important than proteins and such, but honestly, given the massive amount of computer power brought to bear on these projects, I think we have enough to spare.

Also, as has been stated the reason Collatz has so much processing power is their GPU app. I have 3 teraflops of power between 3 relatively inexpensive cards. If WCG had GPU apps, they would certainly gain a ton of processing power. This is largely the reason Folding is as successful a project as it is. They have amazing apps for CPU, ATI, NIVIDIA, and PS3. They reach everyone who wants to crunch.

Dear CLST,
I don't have the feeling that the WCG Community does have any disdain for the resolution of mathematical problems.
For my-self, I try to respect every kind of engagement even if, sometime, I am not really convinced about the importance of some projects ! ...
Regarding the resolution of mathematical problems (collatz, prime number, etc.), I am sure that we face to questions which have a significant impact on the way we will understand the world in some years (5, 25, 100, 500?). I would not say that everything - including in life science - is mathematical. However we have to recognize how much mathematics do help us to understand, to describe, and to modelize complex life science and physical phenomenons (e.g. climate prediction, modeling of ocean streams).
Regarding the current evolution of GPU, I can imagine that scientists (the final decision does not come from WCG) will have to decide quickly about the pertinence of considering GPU-based computation or not.
Thank you for your participation.
Cheers,
Yves

Most people are probably here for the projects offered by the WCG team and the management of the projects. It is well run.
Many of the other projects that I am involved in are similar to the projects here in terms of the research, for example malariacontrol, docking@home, rosetta. So the WCG is ideologically close to my way of thinking. That said I still chip in with some support for other projects that I feel are important that are a bit different to anything the WCG presently offers, such as climate prediction, milkyway and Einstein. I actually prefer that these are run by different teams and hope it stays that way.
I am happy enough to mostly crunch GPUGrid tasks on my NVidia cards, and use most of my CPUs time crunching for WCG.
The nearest thing to the WCG might be docking or ibercivis, as these research teams run several projects at once, though they don€™t have badge systems.

It would be better if the WCG and entire Boinc collective used the same standardised point systems and perhaps badge systems for all projects.
There are some that crunch Boinc Projects solely for the points, no matter what the project is!