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Former Member
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Bugger this member stuff.... i want a custom. :)
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knreed
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1) There is alot of team based data on the WCG site. 2) Most teams would not find it all that positive to view, and thus not as motivating to fold more as it could be. 3) Teams should be shown based on team size. Allowing 3-4 Top 10 groups based on size to encourage smaller teams. When you view the team based rankings your see the likes of Slash, IBM, TW and MOT on top, basically off in a land of their own. Basically Competing at a level that the rest of WCG (90% of the people) aren't ever going to reach. This must suck for Joe team that has 20 members and has little chance of growth. Therefore when they look at the mountains of Data they are always on page 20. When really they should be rewarded/patted on the back just as much as identity-less slob in a Big Team A. Now the idea is that of the top points per day page or something you have the top 10 of several groups. And then you could go through that by clicking on the sections to get the the whole list like we have today. i.e you have a top 10 for the whole grid. Top 10 for teams with less then 100 Members. Top 10 for teams with less then 50 Members Top 10 for teams with less then 25 members. Beren, This is a good idea. One idea that we have discussed internally is to break the teams into different groups such as Universities, Organizations, Corporations, etc. It would good to add to that teams of various sizes as you have outlined above. Please continue to share ideas about things that can be improved with the website. Although some things may take a while to be implemented, we do monitor these discussions and have a to-do list that we are working through. thanks, knreed |
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1) There is alot of team based data on the WCG site. 2) Most teams would not find it all that positive to view, and thus not as motivating to fold more as it could be. 3) Teams should be shown based on team size. Allowing 3-4 Top 10 groups based on size to encourage smaller teams. When you view the team based rankings your see the likes of Slash, IBM, TW and MOT on top, basically off in a land of their own. Basically Competing at a level that the rest of WCG (90% of the people) aren't ever going to reach. This must suck for Joe team that has 20 members and has little chance of growth. Therefore when they look at the mountains of Data they are always on page 20. When really they should be rewarded/patted on the back just as much as identity-less slob in a Big Team A. Now the idea is that of the top points per day page or something you have the top 10 of several groups. And then you could go through that by clicking on the sections to get the the whole list like we have today. i.e you have a top 10 for the whole grid. Top 10 for teams with less then 100 Members. Top 10 for teams with less then 50 Members Top 10 for teams with less then 25 members. Beren, This is a good idea. One idea that we have discussed internally is to break the teams into different groups such as Universities, Organizations, Corporations, etc. It would good to add to that teams of various sizes as you have outlined above. Please continue to share ideas about things that can be improved with the website. Although some things may take a while to be implemented, we do monitor these discussions and have a to-do list that we are working through. thanks, knreed Breaking the groups down like that is a bad idea. It sounds nice, but s Thomas Moore showed, the real world isn't Utopia. I don't know anyone at my university (PhD Student/Practical Teacher here) who is folding. I don't know anyone in my state who are folding. I know there are aussies in MOT, and an Aussie team. However the desire to fold is based off the group of people I am with. While it would be neat for 30 seconds to see that there are other people at my uni or state, it isn't a stat I am interested in most days. It is the Team stat i press F5 for each day. |
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Breaking the groups down like that is a bad idea. It sounds nice, but s Thomas Moore showed, the real world isn't Utopia. I don't know anyone at my university (PhD Student/Practical Teacher here) who is folding. I don't know anyone in my state who are folding. I know there are aussies in MOT, and an Aussie team. However the desire to fold is based off the group of people I am with. While it would be neat for 30 seconds to see that there are other people at my uni or state, it isn't a stat I am interested in most days. It is the Team stat i press F5 for each day. Well, said. Your initial idea is right on track, Beren. I am personally in favor of implementing your solution (basically) just the way you proposed it. There is one other idea which came to my mind. Instead of us ONLY making up new guidelines (which I believe is a great idea), we could ALSO explore another option - if feasible. Have the full stats DB available to complex queries by the members. This way any member who is so inclined can invent a criteria by which their team is #1. For example, the "Teams With Less Than 25 Members - None of Whom Live in the US or the UK." Useful? Strictly, not. Strictly useful is what my cpu is doing while I am posting. But the idea is just to have fun and stimulate competition. Some of these "Firsts" will end up being great fuel for laughs. They certainly would stimulate increased interaction and involvement.  |
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Former Member
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julied posted:
Have the full stats DB available to complex queries by the members. This way any member who is so inclined can invent a criteria by which their team is #1. For example, the "Teams With Less Than 25 Members - None of Whom Live in the US or the UK." Actually, knreed is testing the XML export of the statistics. I do not know just what will be available, but something is proceeding along these lines. |
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Bugger this member stuff.... i want a custom. :) get out meber |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
haha, beren is a meber...
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