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Boinc Version 6.10.17 has been released

Another Boinc update is available smile http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php

I expect a few bugs have been eliminated.

Watch out if you are using Vista 64bit, it might prompt you to download the x86 version! The website does however seem to be able to identify Windows 7 64bit!

If anyone is interested they have a new, and once again, strange Cuda rating system. raised eyebrow

Apparently it supports ATI too!
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Re: Boinc Version 6.10.17 has been released

Another Boinc update is available smile http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php

I expect a few bugs have been eliminated.

Watch out if you are using Vista 64bit, it might prompt you to download the x86 version! The website does however seem to be able to identify Windows 7 64bit!

Hmm, are you meaning the BOINC-client, or whatever web-browser you're connecting to the download-page with?

If the web-browser, Internet Explorer should correctly show the 64-bit-version, even if you're using the 32-bit IE-version. If it's not, there must be a Vista-specific bug somewhere...

Browsers like Firefox on the other hand incorrectly offers only the 32-bit-version. For these, please use this link instead, and download the client that's correct for you.

If anyone is interested they have a new, and once again, strange Cuda rating system. raised eyebrow

Apparently it supports ATI too!

To give similar rating systems, both CUDA and Ati now shows the capabilities of the GPU, as defined by nvidia and Ati... so basically as accurate as showing Intel's or Amd's cpu-numbers would be...


Anyway, for the official announcement:
We are pleased to announce that 6.10 is now ready for public use.



This release of BOINC contains the following enhancements:

1. Support for ATI GPUs

2. Support for detecting proxy configurations within companies

3. Improvements to the CPU/GPU scheduler

4. A new default screen saver



I would like to thanks everybody who has used a pre-release version of 6.10 over the last couple of months, for providing feedback and helping us make the BOINC system even better.



Release Notes: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Release_Notes

System Requirements: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/System_requirements

Download: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php



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There will be more v6.10.xx-releases, including bug-fixes for any problems that always seems to pop-up, and include updates to translations.

Appart for mentioned in the announcement, a couple facts:
1: Win9x and WinMe won't work, last supported build for these OS is v6.6.38.
2: Supports Win7 and Snow Leopard.
3: Known bug, if running AQUA@home, there's some problems with SMP-scheduling, should be fixed in next release.
4: If you're upgrading from v6.4.x or earlier, please note that BOINC Manager now shows the run-time and not cpu-time. So especially if you're not running with 100% cpu-usage, the displayed times will be longer than before, and larger than it will show-up as on the WCG web-page after returned. To show the cpu-time of a task, select it (in advanced view), and hit "properties" (one of the buttons down the left side of the Manager).

Also, a customized WCG-version will maybe be made later, if so there'll be one or more beta-versions announced in the WCG-beta-forum.

Since there will be more v6.10.xx-releases, there's in most cases no reason to upgrade now. For anyone that tries it anyway, please post about any problems or anything don't understand, so hopefully it's either possible for someone on the forum to help you, or in case of a real bug the bug can be fixed in a later release.

But of course, questions like "why does it refuse to install on WinMe" likely will be met with RTFM or similar. wink

RTFM = Read the "fine" manual...


edit - v6.10.17 has now been tested under win2k and it works, so removed the part about v6.6.38 being the last for win2k also.
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Re: Boinc Version 6.10.17 has been released

Another Boinc update is available smile http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php

I expect a few bugs have been eliminated.

Watch out if you are using Vista 64bit, it might prompt you to download the x86 version! The website does however seem to be able to identify Windows 7 64bit!
Like Ingleside I prefer to use this page Download BOINC client software for a fully informed view of Berkeley's BOINC versions for all platforms.
4: If you're upgrading from v6.4.x or earlier, please note that BOINC Manager now shows the run-time and not cpu-time.
To be consistent with the terminology used most of the time in forums at WCG I would say
"BOINC Manager now shows the wallclock time and not cpu-time (often called runtime here)."

And thank you Ingleside for having mentioned that "there's in most cases no reason to upgrade now". (emphasis is mine).

In fact, skgiven, I am not too much enthusiastic about your starting such version-specific announcement threads in the BOINC Agent Support forum. If you go that way you will have to start one or more every week and that will soon be a total confusion particularly for members who are not interested in following the marvelous and exciting adventure of BOINC development and to whom we recommend to stay with the versions offered on WCG's download page.

And I confirm that the techs will build a WCG 6.10.?? version (for the end of this year if things go as expected) with the same principles as the WCG version 6.2.28 currently offered for Windows users.
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In fact, skgiven, I am not too much enthusiastic about your starting such version-specific announcement threads in the BOINC Agent Support forum. If you go that way you will have to start one or more every week and that will soon be a total confusion particularly for members who are not interested in following the marvelous and exciting adventure of BOINC development and to whom we recommend to stay with the versions offered on WCG's download page. Jean.


The previous 6.10.x versions were Beta, so this is the first non-beta 6.10 release.
It includes some interesting changes, and has taken some time to develop. Many WCG people run other non-WCG tasks, including Cuda tasks. So they may appreciate the heads up. I only use the WCG client on one system for that very reason.
By the way, there wont be a new Boinc version every week – hyperbolic speculation is not helpful.
With that exception, I think the useful advice already added justifies this thread.

PS. I was using Firefox on the Vista system, and IE8 did offer up the x64 version!
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Re: Boinc Version 6.10.17 has been released

To be consistent with the terminology used most of the time in forums at WCG I would say
"BOINC Manager now shows the wallclock time and not cpu-time (often called runtime here)."

Hmm, must be another of features inherited due to using the old UD-agent, since this had no idea on what cpu-time was.

And thank you Ingleside for having mentioned that "there's in most cases no reason to upgrade now". (emphasis is mine).

Generally speaking, anyone running v6.10.xx, except for AQUA-users, should upgrade to v6.10.17. Also, for anyone running v6.6.38 it's also a good idea to upgrade.

In fact, skgiven, I am not too much enthusiastic about your starting such version-specific announcement threads in the BOINC Agent Support forum. If you go that way you will have to start one or more every week and that will soon be a total confusion particularly for members who are not interested in following the marvelous and exciting adventure of BOINC development and to whom we recommend to stay with the versions offered on WCG's download page.

Being a new version-serie, a message about the release of v6.10.xx is in order. It's good info for all the multi-project-users that also runs WCG, and probably also for Snow Leopard-users since v6.2.xx doesn't work. Not sure if have anything to say for win7-users...

Also, no-one is talking about posting a new message for each new alpha-build (even some projects does include this), but instead the Release-builds. There won't be a new release every week. If not mis-remembers, for v6.6.xx there was these releases (build-dates, release dates was later...):
v6.6.20: 31. March 2009.
v6.6.28: 5. May 2009.
v6.6.36: 10. June 2009.
v6.6.38: 21. July 2009.
v6.6.41: 20. October 2009. (later pulled)

Most of the later releases was mainly to fix problems for GPU-users, for single-project-users I don't remember any big reason for upgrading past v6.6.20. Well, with the possible exception if you've got lots of tasks on client... or lots of tiny WCG-files... If my recollection isn't too fuzzy, 289 DDDT-tasks was over 3000 WCG-files, something that gives similar performance-hits as having 2000 tasks in another project...

And I confirm that the techs will build a WCG 6.10.?? version (for the end of this year if things go as expected) with the same principles as the WCG version 6.2.28 currently offered for Windows users.

Good to know the plans haven't changed. cool

Even for single-project-users, there's many changes since v6.2.xx, like many improvements to the BOINC Manager, and many bug-fixes "under the hood".

Appart for here at WCG, few users is still using v6.2.xx, something the list below of recent connections to scheduling-server at SETI@home shows:
#1: v6.6.xx: 58.4% of connections.
#2: v6.10.xx: 11.3% of connections.
#2: v5.10.xx: 11.3% of connections.
#4: v6.4.xx: 8.9% of connections.
v5: V6.2.xx: 6.6% of connections.
v6: v5.8.xx and older clients: 3.5% of connections.

So, it's by no means just the alpha-testers that's been testing the v6.10.xx-serie of clients. Still, something likely will pop-up, as more and more users upgrades to v6.10.xx.
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I ran 6.10.x on several systems prior to the 6.10.17 release. The earlier versions did play about with the GPU task allocation, but by the end (6.10.16) I saw no problems.
I expect I will upgrade to 6.10.17 on my main systems, all systems that have a Boinc useful GPU and all systems that run x64bit platforms.
I will wait for the WCG client for one system that only runs WCG tasks.
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I have been having problems getting downloads or reporting completed WUs on my 6.6.36 BOINC version and, after reading about the 6.10.17 version, I think I will move to that level to see if it resolves any problems. I have to go to Projects -> Update to get things transferred and to download new WUs at times.
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I have been having problems getting downloads or reporting completed WUs on my 6.6.36 BOINC version and, after reading about the 6.10.17 version, I think I will move to that level to see if it resolves any problems. I have to go to Projects -> Update to get things transferred and to download new WUs at times.

Are you running a single project (WCG), or multiple BOINC-projects?

If multi-project, there's a bug in v6.6.36, so upgrading would definitely be a good idea.

If single-project, it's more unclear if upgrading will change your observed behaviour, but it's still possible upgrading will fix things for you...

Also, a couple things to remember:
1: For reporting results, there can be upto a 24-hour-delay, if no other reason to connect. For full list of reasons, see http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Ready_to_Report

2: If asking for work and you don't get anything, example if you've selected only a sub-project with little or no work and not enabled "send me work for another project", you'll get an exponential deferral bounded upwards starting at 1 minute, and doubling for each failure, upto max 24 hours. This info is displayed by selecting a project and hitting "Properties", and will show something like:
CPU work fetch deferred for (time)
CPU work fetch deferral interval (time)

The last shows current upper limit (blank if no problem), and the first shows how long until next time will ask for work (blank if no time).
Manually hitting "update" will reset both counters.
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Are you running a single project (WCG), or multiple BOINC-projects?

If multi-project, there's a bug in v6.6.36, so upgrading would definitely be a good idea.

If single-project, it's more unclear if upgrading will change your observed behaviour, but it's still possible upgrading will fix things for you...

Also, a couple things to remember:
1: For reporting results, there can be upto a 24-hour-delay, if no other reason to connect. For full list of reasons, see http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Ready_to_Report

2: If asking for work and you don't get anything, example if you've selected only a sub-project with little or no work and not enabled "send me work for another project", you'll get an exponential deferral bounded upwards starting at 1 minute, and doubling for each failure, upto max 24 hours. This info is displayed by selecting a project and hitting "Properties", and will show something like:
CPU work fetch deferred for (time)
CPU work fetch deferral interval (time)

The last shows current upper limit (blank if no problem), and the first shows how long until next time will ask for work (blank if no time).
Manually hitting "update" will reset both counters.


Are you running a single project (WCG), or multiple BOINC-projects?
- I am running WCG only and I have changed recently to running a single WCG project - HFCC.

If multi-project, there's a bug in v6.6.36, so upgrading would definitely be a good idea.
- Thanks for this information. I do get an error indication for no work available and I have to correct it with an update.

If single-project, it's more unclear if upgrading will change your observed behaviour, but it's still possible upgrading will fix things for you...

- The information you gave about an up-to 24 hour delay for reporting may explain some of what I have seen. It does not explain the error I have gotten for not having any work. I will monitor the activity with 6.10.17 to see if this condition persists or has been corrected.
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Are you running a single project (WCG), or multiple BOINC-projects?
- I am running WCG only and I have changed recently to running a single WCG project - HFCC.

It's unfortunate that WCG calls each sub-project for a "project", since this can lead to mis-understandings. But as far as BOINC goes, WCG is a single project, and it doesn't matter for BOINC if you're running all of WCG's sub-projects or only a single.

- Thanks for this information. I do get an error indication for no work available and I have to correct it with an update.

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- The information you gave about an up-to 24 hour delay for reporting may explain some of what I have seen. It does not explain the error I have gotten for not having any work. I will monitor the activity with 6.10.17 to see if this condition persists or has been corrected.

"No work available" is normally a server-problem, not a client-problem, if the error-message isn't also accompanied with other messages, like example "won't finish in time".

So, if it's due to a current lack of HFCC and nothing else, changing clients won't change the behaviour. Increasing "additional..." cache-setting to maybe 1 day will probably help in this instance, since less chance of running-out of work before manages to re-fill with work.

If "no work available" is accompanied with something else besides listing the sub-project being out of work, please post the relevant messages showing this.
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