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marky1124
Cruncher Joined: Jan 10, 2005 Post Count: 29 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Hi,
I have tried to convince a friend to run BOINC. He is used to having the Windows Task Manager sat in his systray and likes to use that to monitor CPU usage on his machine. Once BOINC is running that CPU meter shows 100% all of the time. He finds this very disquieting and refuses to run BOINC at more than 10% CPU usage because of it. I've explained that BOINC runs at idle priority but he won't let it run because of the way Task Manager displays the CPU as 100% busy. Is there anything I can do to alter Task Manager to ignore all processes running at idle priority, in a similar way to the way it ignores the 'System Idle Process'? His machine is running Windows XP. All the best, Cheers, Mark |
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Sekerob
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Yes, up to 100% of the spare cycles is taken at the very lowest priority. So if you / your systems needs 20%, BOINC uses the other 80%.
----------------------------------------If BOINC is installed as service, and your friend logs in as regular user without admin rights he would not see the WCGxxxxx processes, but it's his system after all, so hiding would be fooling. As for 10% or 100% percent, why not set it to 50% as midway, so he can get comfortable with it and learns that he will rarely ever notices. 10% is so small that it will take multiple days to finish 1 task when they normally do about 6-10 hours depending on system speed. Would that work?
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marky1124
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Thanks for your comments Sekerob.
He does run as administrator, and he is a system administrator, so his Task Manager is showing the BOINC CPU usage. We've noticed also that if BOINC is set to 10% CPU usage then the Task Manager shows regular spikes of CPU activity, this jumps more on other levels. He has a dual core laptop. His peripheral vision is tuned in to seeing the Task Manager and he dislikes that constant jumping, and yet he wants to see the Task Manager since he likes to monitor his CPU usage. Hence my original quest to find a way to tell Task Manager to ignore processes that run at idle priority. We have come up with another scenario that hopefully is going to work well. We've turned off the 'Computing allowed while computer is in use" and set the "Only affter computer has been idle for 1 minute" setting, and bumped the CPU usage to 100%. Hopefully this will give us greater processing than the 10% level, which with his usage per day and his laptop sometimes being on batteries was causing units to be completed outside of their 10 days of alloted time. All the best, Cheers, Mark |
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retsof
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We've noticed also that if BOINC is set to 10% CPU usage then the Task Manager shows regular spikes of CPU activity, this jumps more on other levels. The BOINC throttle does not work smoothly at low levels, so yes, the CPU activity can bounce around. Desktops don't mind being at 100% all of the time because they have better airflow.If the laptop still gets hot at mid percentage levels, another product called threadmaster works better to cut down activity.
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Sekerob
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A little bit hands on is the 3rd party ThreadMasterGUI control application. Offers very smooth throttling from W2K through W7 and server versions and only needs a tweak when a new science comes out or the version is updated. See Start Here FAQs for more on this.
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I don't think the problem is heat or lowering processor usage, but rather the friend does not want to see that the processor is 100%loaded because he wants to see his usage, not the total usage...
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Perhaps just use one core and set Boinc to run after 1min of non-use.
This is the same as running 2 tasks at 50% with the exception that only 1 task will run at a time, so it will finish faster / or have more chance of finishing in time! You should note that tasks do not all save at the time the computer is shutdown and therefore restarting tasks at the last checkpoint can lose a few percent of completed work. Some of the FightAids@home tasks are doing this with me. If you are trying to run 2 cores at 10% or even 20% it is unlikely that you will finish many tasks. |
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TrevorWD
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I don't know if this is relevant, but the 100% figure in task manager is probably closer to 99.99999999999 etc %
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