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adrianxw
Senior Cruncher Denmark Joined: Apr 13, 2008 Post Count: 192 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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The amount of "wingman" jobs I have received on this machine since the project finished is much larger then I expected. The result is that I should reach my yellow badge tomorrow with what I have in the cache of my other machine at this site, (assuming Murphy doesn't find a way to intervene, you know, crash the disk or whatever).
----------------------------------------It is possible, in fact likely, that when I get my badge, I will have some wu's still cached on the other machine which I can abort thus freeing the jobs for another cruncher to help them. Alternatively, I can just let them run, it's good science. Question occurs to me. Does aborting wu's in any way negatively affect the machines currently glowing reputation as a reliable cruncher? <edit> RICE next I assume? I don't want to end up in another ridiculous last minute rush that this project turned into . [Edit 2 times, last edit by adrianxw at Jul 25, 2009 4:28:04 PM] |
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Sekerob
Ace Cruncher Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Post Count: 20043 Status: Offline |
First: A rather misleading title, not appreciated. Give posts a proper title so the content is reflected when looking at the label.
----------------------------------------Thanks Are the wingman jobs for "no reply" or actual original errors? Or even, simply because your machine is not so glowing? Or because an X percent from the get go is send out in quorum 2? The 2 answers can be short: Yes for aborting & No for the Rice project The supply is short temporarily and nothing else was written!
WCG
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Former Member
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Well from the looks of the graphs CEP is going next and then RICE.
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adrianxw
Senior Cruncher Denmark Joined: Apr 13, 2008 Post Count: 192 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Oh good grief man, why is it almost every post you make has to be like that? My topic title was sufficiently short to fit in the damned box and would be clearly understood by the VAST majority of people reading it. What, may I dare to be so bold, was wrong with the title?
Upon reading your reworking of it, (and other clues), I assume English is not your native language, you may want to consider that before criticising other peoples use of the language. You may also think about the purpose of the forum here, to help people who are working for the project, or to irritate and annoy people. To continue, I did not research the reasons I was sent the jobs after the end, but assumed from the shorter deadlines, that they were sent because the original recipient had not returned them, or some other strange result had arisen, various such things frequently result in jobs being resent. The fact that a percentage are shipped in a quorum was unknown to me. It makes absolutely no difference to the question asked, the jobs arrived here. As for the eventual answers, what can I say, probably correct, but no helpful information. Anyone else? |
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gb009761
Master Cruncher Scotland Joined: Apr 6, 2005 Post Count: 2978 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Does aborting wu's in any way negatively affect the machines currently glowing reputation as a reliable cruncher? Yes, I believe it does - although after you've returned a few 'good' results again (either from WU's awaiting crunching, or that have been downloaded since you terminated some early), your machine's reliability rating should recover. Although I don't have the exact information to hand (I'm sure it's somewhere in the forum/FAQ's), I seem to remember it's something like 15 successful WU's in a row that's required. So, what I'd tend to do, would be to download/buffer up quite a few WU's before aborting those excess ones that you find are not needed in order to reach your Gold badge.  |
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Sekerob
Ace Cruncher Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Post Count: 20043 Status: Offline |
Oh good grief man, why is it almost every post you make has to be like that? My topic title was sufficiently short to fit in the damned box and would be clearly understood by the VAST majority of people reading it. What, may I dare to be so bold, was wrong with the title? Upon reading your reworking of it, (and other clues), I assume English is not your native language, you may want to consider that before criticising other peoples use of the language. You may also think about the purpose of the forum here, to help people who are working for the project, or to irritate and annoy people. To continue, I did not research the reasons I was sent the jobs after the end, but assumed from the shorter deadlines, that they were sent because the original recipient had not returned them, or some other strange result had arisen, various such things frequently result in jobs being resent. The fact that a percentage are shipped in a quorum was unknown to me. It makes absolutely no difference to the question asked, the jobs arrived here. As for the eventual answers, what can I say, probably correct, but no helpful information. Anyone else? The comment was on the title, not the language and normally in this community we're rather tolerant if english is not immediately understood, penned by other members. The box is big enough to fit a whole sentence in there, as you can see in this thread from post 2 so stenography or turbo english is not needed. So the answers are the same, yes aborting logically, effects the reliability rating and as said you need 15 subsequent valids to get back in there and no RICE is not next up finishing and no one posted to that effect. It's CEP scheduled to go after DDDT-1 and you can see it in the link that ShadowJ pointed at. \|/
WCG
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adrianxw
Senior Cruncher Denmark Joined: Apr 13, 2008 Post Count: 192 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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My question was, more broadly stated, "Does aborting work units on a project negatively impact on the reliability rating of the relevent device now or later?", as you clearly understood it to be.
Whether this forum has quirks allowing chapters to be written does not alter the fact that in most BOINC project forums, this is not the case. By cutting my title to a MEANINGFUL minimum, I was, AS USUAL, trying to be helpful in the BOINC community. You have not said what is so wrong with my original title. I wanted to know if there were hidden costs with aborting wu's. I asked exactly that. |
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Former Member
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Upon reading your reworking of it, (and other clues), I assume English is not your native language, you may want to consider that before criticising other peoples use of the language. From my experience here I would bet big money that Sek speaks and grammatically writes better English than most here.  |
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JmBoullier
Former Community Advisor Normandy - France Joined: Jan 26, 2007 Post Count: 3715 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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My question was, more broadly stated, "Does aborting work units on a project negatively impact on the reliability rating of the relevent device now or later?", as you clearly understood it to be. If your question is actually that (as it is clear only after reading the text of your post) there is no impact since it does not matter for a device if it receives "rush WUs" as long as it can return them before their due dates. It has no influence on the crediting of the rush WU as well, and not much importance on when it will finally be credited since, first, most DDDT WUs are single and, next, a redundant.WU is not forcibly credited faster than a normal one. You have not said what is so wrong with my original title. I wanted to know if there were hidden costs with aborting wu's. I asked exactly that. When I read the title of your thread in my "Recent Threads" list, i.e. before opening the thread itself, I thought that the discussion would be about the cost from an operational point of view, e.g. server load, additional network traffic, etc... But it's true that English is not my primary language either. I have only used it during about 25 years in the EMEA HQ of a big US company. Back to your question the only serious impact of aborting a large number of WUs at once is that it might bring the daily quota for this device down to zero. But - if enough WUs remain queued in the cache - or if you do it just before midnight UTC your device should not become idle at the end of the day. Cheers. Jean. |
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Steve WCG
Senior Cruncher Joined: May 4, 2009 Post Count: 216 Status: Offline |
Viewed independantly of the content, the title correction is still unclear because it does not state if the question is being asked about user aborting or client aborting. Hold on ... it is not a complete sentence and the caps are messed up???
There are many posts each day with titles that are less clear yet I don't recall such admonishments /accusations as being the typical response. What would be the motive for purposeful misdirection in the first place? |
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