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Genetically modified foods anyone? Are we helping corporates in this?

Is this really just genetic engineering ala Monsanto style? Developing hybrid seeds that do not reproduce making the farmers reliant on the corporates each and every year? Not to mention cross pollination issues causing pollution of wide areas (read neighbouring properties) that may be growing organic produce. Is the main aim here to make plants herbicide resistant?


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Re: Genetically modified foods anyone? Are we helping corporates in this?

In a word, no.
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Hello mhodza,
It has been awhile since anybody asked similar questions. The answer is - no. We are trying to learn how rice works. This basic knowledge can be used for all purposes, ranging from organic breeding to genetic engineering. Knowledge is hard to pigeon-hole in specific compartments. Look at http://protinfo.compbio.washington.edu/rice/ If you drill down on the individual scientists you will start to see where their individual interests lie.

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Re: Genetically modified foods anyone? Are we helping corporates in this?

The aim is to aid genetic engineering the old-school way i.e in the ways that farmers having been doing it for thousands of years by selecting for strains with desirable traits. Marker assisted breeding just allows traits that may not be obvious to be selected for.

As for whether corporates are or will be helped - I certainly hope that the knowledge generated will be of aid for anyone that is working on rice or for that matter for anyone that is trying to understand plants or biology - whether that is an academic scientist or Monsanto. The utility of the knowledge and potential good is separate matter from how the knowledge should be used. If one disagrees with the way the corporations are using the knowledge, the proper response is to try to change the way the corpoations are run or regulated, not to stop the research which in this case has broader implications in understanding protein folding.
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Re: Genetically modified foods anyone? Are we helping corporates in this?

I agree with you but this is the problem, corporations have no effective law - especially the international ones.

Just look at the actions of Monsanto, Mc Donalds, Big Oil, GM, nuclear industry, BHP, the list just goes on. There are thousands. Look at the way pharmaceuticals use misleading advertising to manipulate public and how they selectively publish only favourable research results or how Coke target our kids AND how they all have their lobbyists in governments. They have no effective law. Helping them is certainly against my ethics. Actually they have a rule and it's called profit. They answer to the stockmarket and some basic financial reporting rules to the Gov.

Make no mistake about it they care not for you nor your kids. They aren't in the third world for help, it's another selling opportunity for them.

Sorry to be negative but this the reality that I have seen time and time again....
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While we mention Monsanto and genetic engineering lets look at some facts. Yes there is a possibility of creating wonderful healthy plants that do not suffer from common diseases and grow in poor soils. This is the potential of Genetic Engineering, yes. Monsanto know this and advertise it. What they do however is develop seeds that do not reproduce - forcing farmers to repurchase seeds every year. Great huh? They also make the plant herbicide resistant so they can up the doses of herbicides and who cares about soil ferility or environmental pollution, not to mention cause allergies and damage the health of the consumers - Fantastic. When their dodgy seeds crosspollinate with the organic farmer next door instead of an apology they take them to court for unauthorised use. Yep this is happening and has already happened a number of times. They also add some animal genes so that the farmer can harvest the crop even earlier for easy transport - who cares that the result is even less nutrition content and tastes like cardboard it will look great on the shelf. And because of this there is less waste and they can undercut the farmers doing the right thing by the planet and by their customers. Let's not go into the growth hormone in milk and who helped them develop that technology??? No our girls are developing breasts at 8 - fantastic. Now tell me that corporates have laws and ethics.
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Re: Genetically modified foods anyone? Are we helping corporates in this?

mhodza,
Since you know which way they are talking to you simply ignore their ads, or take them with the reasonable distance that they deserve. smile

Regarding the Nutritious Rice for the World it is obvious that big companies will be able to use the results which will be found, just like anybody else.

But if they know that rice farmers will be able to achieve the same improvements for free, big companies might not see their interest in trying to sell them sterile seeds which would not perform better.

Just my 2 (euro) cents. Jean.
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Re: Genetically modified foods anyone? Are we helping corporates in this?

Good point and a great way of looking at it.

Where I'm coming from is that all of these ingenious finds, even the atom bomb, were developed by souls with a good heart and good intentions. Corporates at least most of them have no such things.

I would love to support good research leading to good outcomes for the planet and the people on it.

Thanks for replying.
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Re: Genetically modified foods anyone? Are we helping corporates in this?

Not really. The Manhattan Project had a very specific goal in mind. It required a huge concerted effort to go from basic fundamental physics to a weapon of mass destruction.
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But the development of the atom technology was well underway.
The Manhattan Project was just a side effect of the interest of man in the atom technology. It just speeded up a little the technology, but in no way was a catalyst for it.
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