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WilhelmGGW
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Write to Disk at Most.. (RESOLVED)

In BOINC Manager
Under tab "Disk and Memory Usage"
Field: Write to disk at most every __ seconds

1) Does this regulate how often the agent will save its work to disk, while it's crunching away on a work unit? That is, the normal saves it does while processing so it can recover more work done (i.e., lose less), if the work unit is aborted before it's finished? Thus, setting this interval to a higher number will produce fewer, less frequent, writes/saves to disk?

2) Is there a maximum number for this setting?

I want to run WCG on a new computer I got that has a solid state drive. But I'm concerned about the limited writes-per-sector capabilities of this kind of storage medium. If this setting does what I think it might, I could well dial it up from the default 60 to something like 900 seconds [15 minutes], to save wear on the drive.
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Re: Write to Disk at Most..

Part of your question was already answered in the Atom 270 thread you posted: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/printpost?post=217950

Write at most is a restriction rather than a forcing. It stops too frequent writing of checkpoints. E.g. if a science is writing one every 59 seconds, it is not allowed to do so first time with the default 60 second restriction, so it will write one next chance after 60 seconds. If a science checkpoints every 15 minutes and you set the value at 960 seconds, it will write a checkpoint about 15 minutes after the previous blocked write i.e at 30 minutes intervals. Personally I use mostly 10 minutes, sometimes max as I'm using "Leave Application in Memory when pre-empted". If that option is off and BOINC is paused or benchmarking, the science unloads and looses the time since last checkpoint.
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Re: Write to Disk at Most..

Sekerob describes how the feature should work.

Unfortunately, BOINC is incapable of enforcing this. Well-behaved applications will respect the setting fully, but if you are concerned about your hardware, you should check that the limit isn't being ignored.
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Re: Write to Disk at Most..

..if you are concerned about your hardware, you should check that the limit isn't being ignored.


And, how would I do this?
Thanks for all your help.
You folks are the best!
I appreciate so much your giving the right information for me to satisfy myself with the setup and fully contribute -- even in this one small way -- to the WCG.
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Re: Write to Disk at Most..

In Task Manager, add the I/O Read Bytes and I/O Write Bytes columns.

I know that none of the WCG applications write excessively, but some projects may have some additional disk activity now and then.
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Re: Write to Disk at Most..

Unfortunately, BOINC is incapable of enforcing this.

WilhelmGGW,

On this note, it's the science application asking BOINC at suitable progress points where intermediate result size is small; "may I write?". At some projects outside WCG they've not included that request for checkpoint writing and just do. The worst I've seen doing it every 30 seconds and another does it every few minutes, but the checkpoint file is very big, so lots of time lost on writing to slow HD media.
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Re: Write to Disk at Most..

In Task Manager, add the I/O Read Bytes and I/O Write Bytes columns.


And how do I do this? I have looked all over for how to add columns, but I can't find it.

You the guru friends of the forum know so much about all these things! This lowly contributor knows so little.
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Re: Write to Disk at Most..

In the Processes tab, click View->Select Columns...
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Re: Write to Disk at Most..

WilhelmGGW,

In Windows Task Manager - Select the Processes tab - in the view menu click Select columns..

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