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WCG interferes with BBC iplayer (UK)

I am finding that when d/l'ing programs using BBC iplayer, BTW I'm in the UK ,the d'l speed is slower that dialup!!! (100b/s !!!) The only way I can make the iplayer d'l at a decent speed is pause or shut down WCG.
I find this confusing, what has CPU usage got to do with d/l speed???
Does anyone know how I can use the iplayer without pausing or shutting down WCG???
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Re: WCG interferes with BBC iplayer (UK)

I find this confusing, what has CPU usage got to do with d/l speed???

Absolutely nothing, normally. I have never experienced any problems with using BBC iPlayer while computing.

Perhaps this is a problem with your web browser. What browser do you use?
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Re: WCG interferes with BBC iplayer (UK)

Perhaps this is a problem with your web browser. What browser do you use?

My default browser is Firefox, but when I d/l stuff from iplayer it automatically uses IE, in my case this is IE6, I haven't upgraded to IE7 as I don't like it, besides no need to with FF as default.
Still I don't see why this set up should effect d/l speeds???
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Re: WCG interferes with BBC iplayer (UK)

Are you actually downloading or streaming?

I can stream in high resolution while grid is set at 100% 24/7. So no problems here.
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Re: WCG interferes with BBC iplayer (UK)

Are you actually downloading or streaming?

I am just d/ling at the moment,when I do stream the program, it runs fine(although the quality is worse) I,ve just found how to reduce the amount of cpu that WCG uses.When reducing to 40% the d/l speed of the iplayer picks up abit ,but is not as fast as when the WCG is paused! So its directly effecting the d/l, but I'm still puzzled why??
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Re: WCG interferes with BBC iplayer (UK)

Have a look at your Antivirus and what it is says about BOINC. Overall system performance goes down if BOINC cannot do localhost/RPC traffic unimpeded.
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Re: WCG interferes with BBC iplayer (UK)

Have a look at your Antivirus and what it is says about BOINC. Overall system performance goes down if BOINC cannot do localhost/RPC traffic unimpeded.

Ok,, you're starting to lose me now, my AV is Avg8, how would this effect BOINC activity? Did you mean to ask what firewall??(ZoneAlarm free, the BOINC manager for Windows and the BOINC client have full permissions) also what is " localhost/RPC traffic?? I am not a beginner with computers but this is going over my head!!
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Re: WCG interferes with BBC iplayer (UK)

AV & FW both can affect the BOINC functioning & localhost comms. BOINC uses the RPC protocol over the internal IP 127.0.1.1. , port 31416. ZA is known to have issues with BOINC. Look in there too.

Avg8 I don't know. Think I looked once and left screaming... tastes differ on what works. After each and every trial I always go back to Alwil Avast. AV's are bound to scan BOINC's continuous file reading and writing as well as in memory process scanning.
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Re: WCG interferes with BBC iplayer (UK)

I am just d/ling at the moment,when I do stream the program, it runs fine(although the quality is worse)

As far as I am aware, the downloads don't come from BBC directly. You are actually downloading parts from a multitude of other users, some faster than others and not all parts are always available.
As soon as you use the BBC client, you too become a sharer and you could end up sending more than you actually receive.

All of this has a big impact on the actual download speeds which is why it can often take many hours to download small amounts of data.

Some of the programmes available for streaming are now available in high resolution (almost DVD quality). Have you tried any of these?

I certainly wouldn't waste time and bandwidth on the download client, and if you are dowloading for archive purposes, remember that usenet is much quicker and your downloads won't be time-limited. shhh
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Re: WCG interferes with BBC iplayer (UK)

Some of the programmes available for streaming are now available in high resolution (almost DVD quality). Have you tried any of these?

I certainly wouldn't waste time and bandwidth on the download client, and if you are dowloading for archive purposes, remember that usenet is much quicker and your downloads won't be time-limited.


One of the main reasons why someone may wish to download instead of 'stream' programmes via BBC Iplayer, is so that they've got flexibility of where they wish to view them (i.e., they're not tied to an internet connection). Also, their internet connection may not be all that reliable/quick, and thus, streaming could be very jerky... As to using usenet - that's not possible, as BBC iPlayer uses Kontiki peer-to-peer technology, and thus, there's no option but to use this...

As to the download's affecting WCG, I certainly found that - although I've just recently (due to necessity), upgraded to the BBC Iplayer Desktop (it's currently in Beta trials), and that doesn't appear to have any adverse affect on downloading/WCG crunching. So, this may be an option...
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