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Hypernova
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smile Average CPU time per work unit

I saw that the units for FAAH have been modified so as to go from an average runtime per workunit from 10hours to 6 hours.
I do not understand why to do that.
Does it means that the computation has been optimized so that the same work will take less time or do we compute less per workunit.
Were is the benefit confused
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Re: Average CPU time per work unit

Work held in 3 tasks taking 10 hours are now cut to form 5 tasks of 6 hours. Does that make sense?

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Re: Average CPU time per work unit

There are a few benefits.

1. If your computer only donates 1 hour per day, then it should take about 6 days to complete a task instead of 10 days. Not everyone on the grid keeps their machines up 24/7.

2. If you have a PII (yes i said it PII...I actually have one contributing time) it will cut down the time needed to run the work units by 40%. When tasks did take 2 days to complete, now they complete in a little more than a day.

3. If for some reason your computer has an error, towards the end of the work unit, it would only be 6 hours of computational time used instead of 10. Note: We are try to eliminate all errors of course caused by the code, but some errors are caused by member machines also.

4....there are more minor ones.

HeadCase is right on the how the work units are split. 30 total hours of work is still being done, just by 5 different computers instead of only 3.

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Re: Average CPU time per work unit

2. If you have a PII (yes i said it PII...I actually have one contributing time) it will cut down the time needed to run the work units by 40%. When tasks did take 2 days to complete, now they complete in a little more than a day.

Wow. And I retired my PIII's thinking they weren't pulling their weight anymore!
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Re: Average CPU time per work unit

2. If you have a PII (yes i said it PII...I actually have one contributing time) it will cut down the time needed to run the work units by 40%. When tasks did take 2 days to complete, now they complete in a little more than a day.

Wow. And I retired my PIII's thinking they weren't pulling their weight anymore!


I've got à 1.6 Ghz Atom working right now laughing But it isn't that slow. It's only approximatly 3.5 times slower than my C2Duo @ 2Ghz... It's better than nothing... But of course, it takes time to complete a task !
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Re: Average CPU time per work unit

2. If you have a PII (yes i said it PII...I actually have one contributing time) it will cut down the time needed to run the work units by 40%. When tasks did take 2 days to complete, now they complete in a little more than a day.

Wow. And I retired my PIII's thinking they weren't pulling their weight anymore!


On the good side, they will complete the tasks, albeit slowly, but they will consume a disproportionate amount of electricity in relation to a more modern machine. I have a couple of PIII's running, they are dependable, but not efficient. But if that is what you have available, at least you are contributing.

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Re: Average CPU time per work unit

Note: The PII is used to help figure out minimum requirements for projects :) But it chugs along nicely...it's the little train that could...

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shock Re: Average CPU time per work unit

Your criticism against the PII is right: they've got an average frequency of 300 MHz but with an average 30W TDP !!! The same TDP as a mobile C2Duo @ 2Ghz...
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Re: Average CPU time per work unit

Okay here's my perspective:

Someone has only a PII and uses it to read/write mail and browse a bit, albeit slow. Does this 7 hours a week. 95% of the CPU time is unused, finds out about WCG, so the owner volunteers to donate the spare time whilst the computer is on.

WCG tests for these cycles so even the smallest can contribute FOR the smallest may talk to the one with a Quad, telling about this Nutritious Rice program and hardly noticing. The Quad guy thinks, well if that PII can do that my Quad can do too and contributes.

Think what I said is clear. WE have won another to spread to word. No one was hurt, no PII was ditched, for it still was USED and adequate from the users perspective.
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Re: Average CPU time per work unit

Well, that wasn't exactly a criticism... I was just making eveyone realise the huge improvement done by CPU designers last 10 years. Today CPUs are just so efficient... wink
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