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CSX600 co-processor

Hi All,

I am looking into methods of accelerating the Rosetta evaluation process and have run across a co-processor with built in libraries which may (or may not) work. It's called a CSX600 co-processor. I'm talking to one of the support people and he wants to know if it makes BLAS library calls. This may or may not be the right forum for asking this question and if so, does anyone know who may know the answer to this?

Thanks for your time.

Dan Replogle
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Dan --

See my post in the Member-to-Member support -- I have forwarded your question to the WCG technical support staff.
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You beat me to it, Dave. smile

http://www.clearspeed.com/news/pr.php?page=pr&pr=25 press release for CSX600 coprocessor
http://www.clearspeed.com/products/si.php
http://www.clearspeed.com/products/apps.php says that the following math libraries will be supported: BLAS, LAPACK and FFTW

So BLAS will be supported.
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Thanks Lawrence.
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Whoo Hooo!!!! Fast Fourier Transforms!!!!

That'll work on Seti also!

Thanks Dave, Thanks Lawrence!

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CSX600 co-processor

From World Community Grid:


The Rosetta program does not use BLAS. Because WorldCommunityGrid
primarily uses Windows based PC's owned by the public, very few have
special accelerator hardware such as CSX600. Our current project does not
make use of dual processors either. Since we are nearly half way done with
the Human Proteome Folding project, we will probably not exploit this kind
of hardware for this project. In the future, we plan on having many
additional projects. Some of these may lend themselves to the use of such
special hardware. It would be good to know what fraction of the general
public, willing to join the WorldCommunityGrid, has such hardware installed
and to know the capabilities of such hardware.

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support advertising as such. However, we encourage organizations to become
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Re: CSX600 co-processor

I have a PCI express moherboard and if WCG took advantage of BLAS this card would be in that computer.
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Re: CSX600 co-processor

Regarding the above reply by WGC:

"It would be good to know what fraction of the general
public, willing to join the WorldCommunityGrid, has such hardware installed
and to know the capabilities of such hardware."


OK, so in regards to WorldCommunityGrids curiosity in knowing what fraction of the general public willing to join the WCG having such hardware (or an interest in obtaining it for the purpose of WGC), we now know of AT LEAST TWO (2) users which fit this criteria.

1. Bruce 2. Dan

Anyone else?
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Extracted from the following article at http://www.computerweekly.com/Article134039.htm dated 7 Oct 2004:
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ClearSpeed hopes that system designers will start to include the CSX600 in systems designed for the high-performance computing market, but the company initially will sell PCI-X cards for shock about $50,000 (£28,000) shock that contain two CSX600 processors and slide into existing workstations and servers based on the x86 instruction set.

The older PCI-X bus technology can be a bottleneck for overall performance. ClearSpeed chose that bus technology because it is so widely used, McIntosh-Smith said. Intel is trying to popularise a faster technology called PCI Express that should help remove some of those concerns as it appears in more servers and PCs, he said.

Software will need to be ported to take advantage of the co-processor's performance.
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Sounds like we need Graham or mr_luc to design a special award for Bruce and Dan. Something about 'Willing to bear any burden - Willing to pay any price!' biggrin

thinking But we might not be able to convince the WCG programmers that they need to work extra hours to meet the pent up demand for CSX600 ready programs. I seem to recall feeling skeptical myself about similar tasks occasionally given to me by clown , my manager.

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Added: ClearSpeed has been around for a while, but this is reported to be their first commercial coprocessor. Their marketing department has evidently decided to go after the larger PCI-X market rather than the newer (and smaller) PCI Express market even though bus constraints on PCI-X might lower the throughput on their Dual Coprocessor board. WCG members in IT Marketing should note that there is likely to be a job opening in their specialty in the near future. raised eyebrow
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ClearSpeed announces 64-bit floating-point processor
By Peter Clarke

Courtesy of Silicon Strategies
6 October 2004 (3:08 p.m. GMT)


BRISTOL, England — Fabless chip company ClearSpeed Technology plc has announced details of its second processor, the CSX600, a follow-on from the CS301 announced in November 2003.

The new chip, which is expected to deliver up to 50 GFLOPS for 5 watts power consumption, is expected to become available before the end of the first quarter of 2005, ClearSpeed said Wednesday (Oct. 6).

The company did not indicate the manufacturing process technology it is designing the processor for or where it expected to get the CSX600 made.



ClearSpeed, a company that has undergone several changes since its origins as PixelFusion in 1997, was awarded a U.K. government grant of £427,800 (about US$760,000) to develop a 64-bit processor, in April 2004, but did not at that time say how long the design would take, or how much it would cost.

The CSX600 is designed to offer 64-bit, IEEE 754 double-precision floating point reaching 50-GFLOPS peak and 25-GFLOPS sustained running at just 5 watts, Clearspeed said. The on-chip bandwidth to on-chip memory is 96-Gbytes/s while the off-chip bandwidth is set to be 11-Gbytes/s.

It is intended as a co-processor for accelerating PC servers, workstations, clusters, blades and servers. Initial applications are expected to be in life sciences, financial modeling, geophysical computation, scientific computing, military and aviation among others.

ClearSpeed described the CSX600 as its "first commercial microprocessor" although the CSX600 was said to have doubled the performance of ClearSpeed's CS301, which was described as having a unit volume price of $975 in November 2003.

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