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Re: CEP is experiencing a huge PF Delta rate


Benchmarks have nothing at all to do with a particular task on hand. It's the efficiency of the task to work according the benchmark expectation as stored in the whetstone/dhrystone values which are updated every 5th day.

I must have just imagined that then. :-)

If you get a poor benchmark the "Expectation" will last for those 5 days until it runs again.

Try running 4 HPF2 jobs together Sek and during that run the benchmarks, then do the same with 4 HCC and you will see what I mean.

Now RICE is unique. It's runs each job a internal benchmark of 5 minutes through a reference mini wu. Most devices seem to do very good on this, at least I always seem to get 5 to 10% more than claimed.

Yeah I know. I dont like it. I want that one. :-)


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Re: CEP is experiencing a huge PF Delta rate

That's a miraculous event. My client suspends the tasks prior to benchmarking. Who'd have thought 4 suspended HPF2 would impact a benchmark differently from 4 HCC. Something to revalidate on my device.

One possible variable: If LiM is not used, the jobs unload during benchmark. 4 big HPF2 v 4 small HCC could have disks whirring effects, such as Swap file resizing/cleaning to go with that. I run with LiM always, also, but mostly because I don't want to loose 4x the time from last checkpoint to present.

Sadly so.

[added: and then, I have the very secret secret little tool that lassos BOINC.exe and throws it 1 priority level above normal which causes the bench to be next to rock solid. This thread after all might still end up being a little educational ;>)]
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Re: CEP is experiencing a huge PF Delta rate

I too have been experiencing huge PF Delta rates when running this project. However, I'm not sure how significant this is. Here's a description of my computer:

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450
Vista Business SP1
4 GB DRAM
Configured to run 4 cores at 100%
No overclocking

Yesterday once I was running three CEP work units and one HCC. When I looked at the Task Manager graphs with "Show Kernel Times" enabled, each of four graphs shows a slightly wiggly red line (kernel time) hugging the bottom of the graph. There was no difference between any of the four work units. Apparently less than 10% of the CPU time is being spent in the kernel.

This is typical of what I generally see on this machine.

Maybe this small inefficiency could be improved, but it doesn't look anything like what we saw with HCC project before that was fixed.

Of course, this is just my experience.

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Re: CEP is experiencing a huge PF Delta rate

Its not as simple as emptying the bucket and dumping to VM while you use the bucket. You know that Sek.
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Re: CEP is experiencing a huge PF Delta rate

Well, then share how you measured it. Now there's nothing that allows me to replicate this big benchmark(?) variation, Whl, OS, RAM, CPU, BOINC parms, BOINC version, stock, home compile. Never observed it, first time heard of it.
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Re: CEP is experiencing a huge PF Delta rate

Back to threads topic:

E000027_ 324A_ 00035r00u_ 0-- In Progress 14-12-08 00:29:13 21-12-08 00:29:13 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
E000027_ 324A_ 00035r00u_ 1-- Pending Validation 14-12-08 00:25:05 16-12-08 20:10:22 45.35 637.1 / 0.0

Waiting and hoping. But whilst 0-- not returned yet a good change for a long runtime too.

Some specs of this WU: Vista 64bit, Quad, 2.1GHz; 1/4 of the time running with another CEP on another core.
Uploaded 5 files: 1450kB
Peak WS 90,148; VM 357,712; Pagefaults 1,404,000,000 this is 8600 PF's/sec.
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Re: CEP is experiencing a huge PF Delta rate

Hi,

Thank you all for the discussions and explanations of page faults.
(especially hard and soft faults)

I was concerned with over 3,000 page faults in a two second period -
mostly continually.
BUT - the disk activity light was not lit.
(Running XP with 2GB of memory with a an Intel duo)

The Windows task manager said I had over 1 GB of physical memory available.

The explanations of the o/s handling multiple mem requests fits what I saw.

Thanks again, smile
Jay E.
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