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MAB The Frisian
Cruncher Joined: Oct 12, 2008 Post Count: 22 Status: Offline |
How can "system idle process" take up to 50%, both cores use 25 %, while my comp is running WCG on both cores ? Have set processortime to 100% if no other program runs.
----------------------------------------Also other programs run slower. A restart fixes the problem, but not sure for how long. Processor Usage Do work while computer is in use? Yes Do work only after computer is idle for: minutes Do work while computer is running on batteries? No Stop work after computer is idle for: minutes If you are using version 6.2 of the software, then the number of processors used will be the lesser of the two fields below. If you are using a version before 6.2, then only the 'at most' field will be used. On multiprocessors, at most use: 16 processors On multiprocessors, use: 100 % of processors Graphics When displaying graphics, render at most 3 frames per second When displaying graphics, use at most 1.0 % of cpu Disk Usage Use no more than: 10 Gigabytes of disk space Leave at least: .5 Gigabytes of disk space free Use no more than: 50 % of total disk space Write to disk at most every: 120 seconds Memory Usage Leave applications in memory while preempted? No Use no more than: 50 % of memory while computer in use Use no more than: 75 % of memory while computer idle Use no more than: 50 % of virtual memory Network Usage Confirm before connecting to Internet? No Disconnect when done? No Maximum upload rate: 0 Kbytes/sec Maximum download rate: 0 Kbytes/sec Workunit Cache Settings Connect to network about every .2 days Cache 10 extra days of work Cross Project Settings Project Weight: 100 Switch between applications every: 60 minutes Do I have to set Project weight to 500 for participating in 5 projects ?? [Edit 1 times, last edit by MAB The Frisian at Dec 6, 2008 4:52:38 PM] |
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Sekerob
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Not quite following what you say. You want it to use 50% of the available CPU time when computer in use? It's a requested feature but rather pointless. BOINC should not interfere with normal use as it runs at the absolute lowest priority. You can set BOINC to do nothing when using the pc (keyboard/mouse input).
----------------------------------------Set it to 600. WCG is now 6 projects under 1 roof. But, if you only do WCG, 100 is 100% anyway. When you leave it to 100 and you choose 4 projects outside WCG it 100 becomes 20% of the total average daily time share, sort of.
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MAB The Frisian
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I want it to use as much processortime as possible if I'm not using the comp myself at that time.
----------------------------------------But I don't understand system idle process gives a reading of 50%. If I set the processortime to 100% I expect the cores run at 100% doing WCG. But perhaps I understand "system idle process" wrong. If it says 50% does that mean the cores are having a holiday for half the time ? Only WCG. [Edit 1 times, last edit by MAB The Frisian at Dec 6, 2008 5:34:45 PM] |
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Sekerob
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well:
----------------------------------------Do work while computer is in use? Yes Okay Do work only after computer is idle for: minutes Is disable by option Yes above. Do work while computer is running on batteries? No Okay Stop work after computer is idle for: minutes Leave to zero If you are using version 6.2 of the software, then the number of processors used will be the lesser of the two fields below. If you are using a version before 6.2, then only the 'at most' field will be used. On multiprocessors, at most use: 16 processors Okay On multiprocessors, use: 100 % of processors Okay In BOINC Manager (BM), go to Advanced menu, Local Preferences, Hit the Clear button and save. Possibly you have a much reported preference conflict v.v. the CPU use. In BM, go to Activity menu and select "Run Always". After, restart BOINC and post us your BM message log from the beginning if it does not start running 100% of the spare time. 50% idle suggests your computer is running only on 1 core. Are 2 or is 1 science project running when you look in the BM Tasks window?
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MAB The Frisian
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It starts at 100%, but, as I stated earlier, after some time both cores, not 1, only use 25 % each. If I check my WTM I only see 25 % for each core and 50 % doing "system idle process" ?????????
----------------------------------------So what does that mean if not my cores having a holiday ? At the moment both cores are chewing on hcc1 version 606 WU's at 25 % each and a "system idle process" at 50%. What the heck is "system idle process" if it's not spare time my cores do not need. Edited for inappropriate language...cih [Edit 2 times, last edit by Former Member at Dec 8, 2008 2:07:20 PM] |
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Sekerob
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pass... know of no system that reduces idle priority processes to half a core (25%). What OS, what hardware, what energy saving features?
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Former Member
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That computer must work for the Government
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Former Member
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MAB The Frisian, your percentages are very.... precise. My experience is that the actual percentages you see will vary a lot more than this.
Please will you open Task Manager. * Set the update speed to "high" * Go to the Performance tab -- what do you see? Get a screenshot for us if you can. Finally, what we always request: the BOINC message log. Just copy the messages and post them for us. Thank you. |
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MAB The Frisian
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XP x64, 4050e, GA-MA78GM-S2H, 80Gb HD.
----------------------------------------All running at default. Nothing exotic. Is it possible "system idle process" are certain processes instead of doing nothing : http://www.backgroundtask.eu/Systeemtaken/Taakinfo.php?ID=3733. Gives no further expanation. Avira doesn't show a virus. Just downloaded SSS and snapped two jpg's. Just don't know how to import/place them in my message. Took this from stdoutdae. 06-Dec-2008 19:10:03 [---] Exit requested by user 06-Dec-2008 19:11:45 [---] Starting BOINC client version 5.10.45 for windows_intelx86 06-Dec-2008 19:11:45 [---] log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops 06-Dec-2008 19:11:45 [---] Libraries: libcurl/7.18.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8e zlib/1.2.3 06-Dec-2008 19:11:45 [---] Data directory: D:\BOINC 06-Dec-2008 19:11:46 [---] Processor: 2 AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) Dual Core Processor 4050e [AMD64 Family 15 Model 107 Stepping 2] 06-Dec-2008 19:11:46 [---] Processor features: fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 3dnow mmx 06-Dec-2008 19:11:46 [---] OS: Microsoft Windows XP Professional x64 Edition: , Service Pack 2, (05.02.3790.00) 06-Dec-2008 19:11:46 [---] Memory: 1.75 GB physical, 3.63 GB virtual 06-Dec-2008 19:11:46 [---] Disk: 10.00 GB total, 6.80 GB free 06-Dec-2008 19:11:46 [---] Local time is UTC +0 hours 06-Dec-2008 19:11:46 [World Community Grid] URL: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/; Computer ID: 722856; location: (none); project prefs: default 06-Dec-2008 19:11:46 [---] General prefs: from World Community Grid (last modified 02-Nov-2008 22:58:49) 06-Dec-2008 19:11:46 [---] Host location: none 06-Dec-2008 19:11:46 [---] General prefs: using your defaults 06-Dec-2008 19:11:46 [---] Preferences limit memory usage when active to 895.16MB 06-Dec-2008 19:11:46 [---] Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 1342.74MB 06-Dec-2008 19:11:46 [---] Preferences limit disk usage to 5.00GB 06-Dec-2008 19:11:48 [World Community Grid] Restarting task X0000053580216200508050918_0 using hcc1 version 606 06-Dec-2008 19:11:48 [World Community Grid] Restarting task X0000053580177200508050919_0 using hcc1 version 606 And at the moment WTM showes 50% for both cores each. What is "system idle process" doing sometimes ? And again it is 50%, As I at the moment do not know how to add a screenshot, I'll tell you what it shows. The left screen shows full cpu usage while the right screen shows "hills and valleys", an up- and down going line. As if core 2 is picking its nose. ????????? Page File usage is almost a straight line. It seems to me it actually comes down to the fact : what is system idle process really and how to find out and check on your system ? It seems that's all folkes. Good luck. [Edit 9 times, last edit by MAB The Frisian at Dec 11, 2008 10:00:17 PM] |
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