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JmBoullier
Former Community Advisor Normandy - France Joined: Jan 26, 2007 Post Count: 3716 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Hello mreuter80!
----------------------------------------What I understand is that you have not understood. Older machines and "superduperheckmachine computer" are equal only regarding the deadlines. They all have the same probability to return results in time. What I said and what is confirmed by the facts is that an older/slower PC will claim and be granted a modest amount of credits, say, as little as 20 for the slowest, while the fastest ones will get much more: about 150-160 for a standard Q6600 quad, or even up to 220 as I just found by browsing the scoring of a few Rice WUs still in my Results Status. Cheers. Jean. ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by TKH at Jul 7, 2008 11:43:54 AM] |
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mreuter80
Advanced Cruncher Joined: Oct 2, 2006 Post Count: 83 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Thanks guys. I think I got it now.
The explanation with the calculation helped very much. ![]() |
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sprigo
Cruncher England Joined: Apr 30, 2007 Post Count: 37 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Although there does seem to be large differences on the points awarded for WU completed on the same machine as shown below!
----------------------------------------R00087_ 06e58005eedbe0af85ee87530c8fbd4d_ 02_ 000_ 8-- Main-PC Valid 08/21/2008 19:43:50 08/24/2008 00:39:32 8.00 190.0 / 201.8 R00082_ c476bde22afaa3fd2662fe98380c839a_ 01_ 001_ 11-- Main-PC Valid 08/18/2008 05:50:59 08/23/2008 13:52:04 8.00 190.6 / 31.4 R00082_ c658b43b2a9e705404c90ea67a5a6109_ 01_ 005_ 2-- Main-PC Valid 08/18/2008 05:50:58 08/22/2008 19:59:17 8.01 190.7 / 24.1 R00082_ d80aee26716f6b2d3293f8cfa7433ef8_ 01_ 005_ 14-- Main-PC Valid 08/18/2008 05:49:51 08/21/2008 15:35:46 8.01 178.7 / 198.8 Hello mreuter80! What I understand is that you have not understood. Older machines and "superduperheckmachine computer" are equal only regarding the deadlines. They all have the same probability to return results in time. What I said and what is confirmed by the facts is that an older/slower PC will claim and be granted a modest amount of credits, say, as little as 20 for the slowest, while the fastest ones will get much more: about 150-160 for a standard Q6600 quad, or even up to 220 as I just found by browsing the scoring of a few Rice WUs still in my Results Status. Cheers. Jean. ![]() |
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Sekerob
Ace Cruncher Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Post Count: 20043 Status: Offline |
Hello Sprigo,
----------------------------------------Can you go to the Result Status page, find those middle 2 results and click on the link in the Status column. Probably if you compare those Result logs with the 2 at bottom/top of your 4 posted here, you'll see some difference. Probably something was recorded towards the later part of the log, suggesting only the last X seeds/structures were counted for credit. ttyl
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sprigo
Cruncher England Joined: Apr 30, 2007 Post Count: 37 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Hi Sekerob,
----------------------------------------I can't see anything in the log about only x seeds being counted for credit but the first log (full points) is 1749 lines long where as the low credit is only 1125 lines long. ![]() |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Hi sprigo,
A while back a member had his result file written over toward the end of the 8 hours. As a result, only a few structures (seeds) were returned and he only got credit for those structures, so he lost a lot of points. This gives you something to look for in those 1100+ lines. There may be a line reporting a problem with the work file. Lawrence |
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sprigo
Cruncher England Joined: Apr 30, 2007 Post Count: 37 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Hi Lawrence,
----------------------------------------I've been through the log file and there's no mention of any problems. It looks exactly the same as a good log with just the wcg_seed nnnn followed with running time: xxxxx all the way to the end with called boinc_finish. ![]() |
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JmBoullier
Former Community Advisor Normandy - France Joined: Jan 26, 2007 Post Count: 3716 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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sprigo, can you remember if your machine was doing something which would have caused a high system activity (e.g. much paging because of another process needing much more RAM than available) on this machine while those two WUs were running?
----------------------------------------Since Boinc counts CPU time (vs UD which was counting wallclock time) that should theoretically have no importance. But it is obvious when you monitor these things long enough that Windows is "charging" much of its activity to the running processes, as opposed to good old mainframes of the past which were more carefully accounting CPU time between user processes and system tasks. If that was the case those two WUs have reached the 8-hour limit before having been able to do as much useful work as their benchmark would let Boinc expect. Edit: If you still have the logs could you please tell us the start and end times for those two WUs. Cheers. Jean. ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by JmBoullier at Aug 25, 2008 11:57:57 PM] |
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sprigo
Cruncher England Joined: Apr 30, 2007 Post Count: 37 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Hi Jean,
----------------------------------------I can't remember for certain what the machine was doing at the time but I don't think there were any RAM hungry processes running (I have 8Gb installed on this machine). Looking at the times the units were sent in (nearly 8pm on Fri & 2pm Sat) I know that I was out with my camera Saturday morning so the machine was idle. I've just noticed that at line 137 of the log file........ wcg_seed 726860009 running time: 3129.364460 wcg_seed 1022773270 wcg_seed 847333309 <------------- An extra seed? running time: 3179.565717 wcg_seed 816404410 and on the other file this also occurs but at line 726 running time: 19987.300523 wcg_seed 60593855 wcg_seed 1044142934 <------------ An extra seed? running time: 20042.215552 wcg_seed 813102177 This appears to happen a couple of times through the files. I'll have a better look at this later and check if the interval between these is the same in both logs. Sprigo ![]() |
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fkehoetx
Cruncher Joined: May 16, 2008 Post Count: 28 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Didactylos:
Do points awarded indicate the approximate amount of work processed? If computer "A" usually averages 136 points and computer "B" 272 ... does this mean that "B" averages twice as much work per eight hour unit? fkehoetx New Cruncher |
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