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result not averaged

I returned a result which at first was 'pending' (mine was the third result out of 3, 1st valid 2nd error). After a time i got the same points the 1st claimant asked for...

What happened?

Project Name: Help Conquer Cancer
Created: 03/27/2008 14:34:19
Name: X0000043910405200412161130
Minimum Quorum: 2
Initial Replication: 2


Result Name Status Sent Time Time Due /
Return Time CPU Time (hours) Claimed/ Granted BOINC Credit
X0000043910405200412161130_ 2-- Valid 03/29/2008 01:06:10 03/29/2008 12:07:13 5.72 62.8 / 62.8
X0000043910405200412161130_ 0-- Error 03/28/2008 18:26:36 03/29/2008 00:58:38 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
X0000043910405200412161130_ 1-- Valid 03/28/2008 18:00:01 04/01/2008 21:37:59 10.07 94.0 / 62.8

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Re: result not averaged

Correct. The difference was too great, so the history for the involved devices is consulted and the one nearest to it's credit history is used as the one determining the granted credit. It's nothing to do with who came first or last. That is some silly rule used at some other BOINC projects.
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Re: result not averaged

Explained in the last post in this thread: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread?thread=6105
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Re: result not averaged

Thanks for the answers!

This is the first time this happens on my machine, so I'm starting to wonder whether this could have something to do with changing from Boinc 5.10.31 to 5.10.45? confused

Or is the fact that this is the first time a proof of little experience/attention in (grid)-computing with Boinc? sad
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Re: result not averaged

It seems a rare case where in fact an under-claimer is meeting with an overclaimer.... i could elaborate on it, but in a nutshell neither 2 are close to project averages in run time and claim per hour. The deviation was though individually not so big that it made another new rule to kick in and mark both up or down.... hey, today a client of mine claimed 71 on a job and got 98. Win and loose, things overall gravitate towards the average.

X0000043920084200412102006_ 0-- Valid 03/28/2008 23:02:42 03/29/2008 19:21:49 6.60 98.3 / 98.3
X0000043920084200412102006_ 1-- Valid 03/28/2008 22:49:55 04/01/2008 12:17:27 4.65 70.8 / 98.3

64 bit client and OS involved?
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Re: result not averaged

Thanks,

i'm not (too) mad after all... biggrin

the results are from a laptop, intel duo 1.6GHz (T2050) running Vista.
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Re: result not averaged

It seems a rare case where in fact an under-claimer is meeting with an overclaimer....


Hi, Sekerob! In my case, unfortunately, it is not so rare with Help Conquer Cancer. confused

My latest HCC WUs:

X0000044431042200412211614_ 0-- Valid 04/06/2008 07:02:51 04/07/2008 14:42:49 12.12 83.1 / 36.3

X0000044471050200412150804_ 0-- Valid 04/07/2008 03:36:14 04/09/2008 04:08:20 12.91 87.1 / 53.4

X0000044550989200412311358_ 0-- Valid 04/08/2008 16:27:50 04/10/2008 19:11:17 11.65 77.2 / 38.7

It drives me nuts when I see the granted credit. biggrin

I'm frequently the overclaimer in all projects, but this huge gap between credit claims happens only with HCC. confused

Thanks in advance.

64 bit client and OS involved?

I use Linux. Maybe most Linux clients are too modest to claim for high credit in HCC. Well, mine isn't. hahahah biggrin
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Thanks for the answers!

This is the first time this happens on my machine, so I'm starting to wonder whether this could have something to do with changing from Boinc 5.10.31 to 5.10.45? confused

Or is the fact that this is the first time a proof of little experience/attention in (grid)-computing with Boinc? sad

To answer the open question of Jeroen, no its nothing to do with the upgrade:

@Eduardo, I'll carry this one to the techs for review.
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@Eduardo, I'll carry this one to the techs for review.


Thanks, Sekerob! I appreciate your help!
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@Eduardo, I'll carry this one to the techs for review.

Thanks, Sekerob! I appreciate your help!
No worries, but you might have a point with being paired to old Linux clients. They were originally like 55% of the 'old' Windows claim under 5.4. Ever since the benchmarks have been upped in general and for Linux in particular to bring them closer to being on par with Windows. A new fang 64bit 5.10 client meeting with old 32bit 5.4 client wont help, but that said, 64bits overclaim on 32 bit sciences... that's all WCG has!
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