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retsof
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When project links change, that source reports "0".
----------------------------------------We have all of these old historical devices that aren't active, so the statcounters didn't use 'devices' here.
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----------------------------------------Work+GPU i7 8700 12threads School i7 4770 8threads Default+GPU Ryzen 7 3700X 16threads Ryzen 7 3800X 16 threads Ryzen 9 3900X 24threads Home i7 3540M 4threads50% [Edit 1 times, last edit by retsof at Jan 21, 2008 2:36:16 PM] |
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vaio, look at the specific page we are discussing: http://vspx27.stanford.edu/DCcomparison.html
I wouldn't dump randomly on another project. My concerns about F@H we will save for another day. |
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Well it seems to me that the WCG numbers are possibly wrong, not the Folding ones.
Where are the WCG numbers from? Elsewhere I see this: Average floating point operations per second 379,472.8 GigaFLOPS / 379.473 TeraFLOPS (Seti) (active users 204,939) and this: Average floating point operations per second 113,622.8 GigaFLOPS / 113.623 TeraFLOPS (WCG boinc clients only) (active users 56,349) Obviously there are no comparitive numbers for Folding, being non-boinc. Just thought you'd like to see the Seti comparison. Is a shame to see that according to Folding stats less than 10% of total historical cpu count is active.....though many of those would be real old rigs that have since died. Does WCG keep a count of "currently" active processors? I recall it being something that was going to be added....dunno if it has. |
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Addendum:
1099 *TFLOPS is the actual teraflops from the software cores, not the peak values from CPU/GPU/PS3 specs. Those PS3's sure ramp up the numbers. |
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I never said that number was wrong. I just said the page is completely wrong.
The Google numbers make no sense to me - try the Google searches, you get completely different numbers. Results 1 - 10 of about 1,870,000 English pages for "World Community Grid" Results 1 - 10 of about 540,000 English pages for "Folding@Home" Then the SETI number is wrong - clearly the page is out of date. The UD figure shouldn't be there at all - they're gone. That just leaves the WCG and F@H figures, and (as presumably you know) they are calculated using totally different methods and simply aren't comparable. The WCG figure is CPU-days, while the F@H figure is an actual device count (a very generous count, including any host that contacted the server in the last 50 days). Chalk and cheese - no comparison possible. If I thought the page was put there deliberately, then I would accuse Dr. Pande of lying with statistics. However, I think the page was just forgotten, and the data is entirely meaningless. |
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DmitrIO
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Don't want to be rude, but somehow I get different results..
----------------------------------------"World Community Grid": Results 1 - 10 of about 824,000 "Folding@Home": Results 1 - 10 of about 7,170,000. Yahoo "World Community Grid": 1 - 10 of about 3,920,000 "Folding@Home": 1 - 10 of about 8,720,000 Of course these requests doesn't count short names like "WCG" or "F@H", but still F@H seems to be more popular counting by links. [Edit 1 times, last edit by DmitrIO at Jan 22, 2008 9:18:31 PM] |
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Well, that's odd.
Anyway, it supports my belief that the numbers are misleading. If different search engines give such different numbers, what use are they for comparison? |
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retsof
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Different portions of the internet backbone may also be inactive at any one time, and it depends on where YOU are and where THEY are and what is accessible.
----------------------------------------Results 1 - 10 of about 3,040,000 for world community grid. (0.20 seconds) Results 1 - 10 of about 7,230,000 for folding@home. (0.12 seconds) Yahoo 1 - 10 of about 45,100,000 for world community grid (About this page) - 0.32 sec. 1 - 10 of about 8,780,000 for folding @ home (About this page) - 0.18 sec
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----------------------------------------Work+GPU i7 8700 12threads School i7 4770 8threads Default+GPU Ryzen 7 3700X 16threads Ryzen 7 3800X 16 threads Ryzen 9 3900X 24threads Home i7 3540M 4threads50% [Edit 1 times, last edit by retsof at Jan 23, 2008 4:20:53 PM] |
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Sekerob
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On Topic, think i saw a number a few days ago just for BOINC as being like 103 thousand active recent average. Add to that 25-30% for the single core UD clients and you'll come close to 130k machines sweating out reguilarly for WCG.
----------------------------------------The particular number is on the wishlist to be added to the stats pages, so until then wet thumb, read the signs and wind direction.
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courine
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Does this help:
----------------------------------------http://www.allprojectstats.com/po.php?projekt=6 http://boincstats.com/stats/project_graph.php?pr=wcg ![]() ![]() ![]() [Edit 1 times, last edit by courine at Jan 24, 2008 10:37:28 AM] |
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