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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
I constantly see computers sitting idle, unused everywhere I go and taking up space waiting for the computer bone yard to come. I'm talking everywhere from the local State Universities, businesses, local government, private homes and the list forever goes on...
With the lowest, default of the order now quickly becoming an Intel dual core processor there is more power to be exploited then anytime in the past. Most business I've seen have P4's with a few Intel Core2duo's they are beginning to phase in. I would predict it will be mostly all dual cores mostly in 1 to 2 more years. With all this said, I think there is a enormously large amount of resources to be harvested. The question I'm wondering is how do you go about harvesting this vast amount of resource in a legal, polite and responsible manner? A thought which immediately comes to mind is Myspace. With over 215 million users currently or about 1 in 4 Americans having Myspace that is a vast pool to market from. There are only a few people on Myspace from the WCG advertising there with a profile last time I noticed. However, I don't think that is enough nor gets very much attention overall. There is also, YouTube and Wikipedia which attracts billions of users. I think what the World Community Grid needs more then anything is the right connections to the right organizations. The WCG needs the right proper and official channels from which to run the grid on vast amounts of State University computers and such that sit idle right now. Anyone with any input on this matter? |
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aBowers
Advanced Cruncher Joined: Jun 14, 2006 Post Count: 54 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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In trying to increase the output of the WCG I see two fundamental -- and indeed related -- problems. The first problem is simply one of awareness. The vast majority of people, I suspect, have no idea that distributed computing exists, and that they can battle disease via their computers. The second problem, which is really the more interesting of the two, is that most people find it difficult to understand how the grid works, which leads to an apprehension toward installing/pursuing it. I have observed this in my efforts to expand the membership of my WCG team: almost everyone that I've recruited was initially anxious about having a "program" running on their computer. The more technical details that I provided -- on proteins, cpu cycles, work units, multi-cores...etc. -- the more overwhelmed and skeptical they became. So while we can increase awareness through advertising and mass emailing friends, it seems that actually getting people to be self-motivated to install the program entails imparting some understanding of it. Some of us, including myself, tend to take it for granted that people ought to be excited by the very idea of the WCG, but a failure to understand the grid (as opposed to a general aversion to helping people) is often responsible for preventing this excitement from occurring. The way I approach this problem is to determine how comfortable my "target" is with technology/science...etc. If they are comp-science majors, or have always been a "geek" like me then I jump right into the details. But, for the majority of people, I have found that a more manipulative approach is better for getting the results we want (more users). Therefore, for people like "grandma" who aren't tech-oriented, I would propose framing the WCG like this: "Hey, I found this really cool screen saver that helps cure cancer." Don't tell them about points, proteins, or about anything that might activate their general aversion to tech/science. Just call it a screen saver, and then answer any questions they might have after that. This will save you considerable effort and frustration, and will help you grow the WCG. Every once and a while, you will get lucky, and you will attempt to recruit someone who has a lot of questions for you. These are the types of people that will not only install the program on every computer they can get their hands on, but they will help "spread" the idea just like you. Just remember that these are comparatively rare individuals, and not everyone will become keen to the concept.
----------------------------------------Thus, to sum up, try varying your approach to recruitment depending on who you are trying to recruit. Mass mailings tend to be ineffective because it's difficult to send the right message in a generic email. Instead, try face to face explanations, and don't be afraid to exaggerate the ease and simplicity of this "cool new screensaver you found." We musn't let potential contributers slip away because we insist on explaining the grid to them in the hopes that they will be passionate about it if they "would only understand." If we can't change Luddites, then we might as well use them, so don't overwhelm them with technicalities! ![]() [Edit 2 times, last edit by aBowers at Dec 23, 2007 2:37:03 AM] |
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David Autumns
Ace Cruncher UK Joined: Nov 16, 2004 Post Count: 11062 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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What we need is some PR assistance from IBM
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Funny this should come up today. I was just showing this http://www.tryscience.org/grid/home.html to the UserFriendly.Org audience. It's a Flash introduction to grid computing, and uses a couple of games to illustrate how it works (in very simple terms).
The link has been on the WCG homepage ever since the grid was launched, but many people seem to overlook it. It's aimed at children, but it makes a good entry-level introduction for any age group. As for the big organisations - we really don't get to see much of the effort that WCG puts in there. WCG will negotiate in private, and we only see the results (which are rather disappointing, but that's a different story). Also, WCG advertise on the websites and in the periodicals that CEOs and CTOs tend to read. Targeted advertising is good; it saves money, but it may give the average member the idea that WCG don't advertise at all. |
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KLiK
Master Cruncher Croatia Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Post Count: 3108 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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easier said but done...'cause i admin the one office that has 11computers and usually works in Word...so they don't need the performance & the BOINC crunches in background...
----------------------------------------but making the Uni to run the BOINC is harder...much harder! |
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Sekerob
Ace Cruncher Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Post Count: 20043 Status: Offline |
Front Page WCG new partners: Eni Group (Viva Italia) 72,258 employees end of 2005. A slightly different scale of people reached in one fell swoop.
----------------------------------------http://www.fipl.it/docs/progetti/ENI_Group.pdf Someone may remember the student that worked at WCG who's doing 'viral marketing' study and developing the ways it can be applied to spreading the word on WCG through particular avenues of WCG's choice. Famously more roads lead to Rome! Last week WCG did a new 7 day record of 1,458 CPU years, but in POINTS WCG nearly tripled the performance, just to express the quality of crunching that's done today thru BOINC instead of using the ageing UD agent.... BOINC now well settled above the 80% mark. Seasons greetings and lets crunch forward.
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depriens
Senior Cruncher The Netherlands Joined: Jul 29, 2005 Post Count: 350 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Nice graph Sek! Let's do some technical analysis on the weekly chart of the WCG-stock!
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Diana G.
Master Cruncher Joined: Apr 6, 2005 Post Count: 3003 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I found out about WCG in the Sunday paper's USA Today or (Weekend?) under the tiny Tech section. There was a little blurb about "Would you like to help cure disease?" That was almost 3 yrs. ago...I literally jumped from my seat and ran to the computer and downloaded the UD agent.
----------------------------------------I have told many people about this and I will keep doing it. Someday it will light a fire!!! Diana ![]() |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
I have a few comments on the postings.
"What we need is some PR assistance from IBM" Does IBM really believe in the cause, or are they just doing it to look like the 'good guys' or some other cause such as publicity or a tax break? "Also, WCG advertise on the websites and in the periodicals that CEOs and CTOs tend to read." What periodicals? Has anyone published on more Official college level resources such as virtual libraries, 'EBSCO' and other commonly used resources? I wasn't aware CEO's read much of anything if it didn't have an immediate cause or benefit to their corporation. And what would a CEO do for the WCG? "making the Uni to run the BOINC is harder...much harder!" I pretty much figured that was the case. I know how hard that can be to some degree. I'm not sure if there is much hope if that challenge is faced at every University. "I found out about WCG in the Sunday paper's USA Today" How hard would it be to run stories in every local news paper, radiostation or television station we could find? Why not find a database? I don't think it's uncommon for online television stations to have submission forms or e-mail addresses for stories. Who would be authorized to write them? I think this method is less preferable, but you never know every little bit might help? I suppose the FCC is probably good place to find the television database. http://www.fcc.gov/mb/video/tvq.html TV Jobs http://msi.tvjobs.com/ |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Does the World Community Grid have a "Press Kit" ?
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