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Re: Crashes

I know blaming the techs is easy, but it doesn't help them do their job, and it certainly doesn't help you. Blaming me might be fun, but I'm a volunteer trying to help you.


One of the reasons that blaming the techs is easy is that they don't appear to give a darn. The crash is occurring after the crunching is over (or almost over?). Isolating the faulty section of code and making it available for download should be trivial and could have been done months ago. Working out where a piece of code which takes a few seconds to run fails would be relatively easy. Working out anything from a full X-hour run of a WU which will just as likely end when one isn't even awake or at home is practically impossible.

Ignoring an issue which could have been fixed (or at least correctly identified) almost 3 months ago is just a good way to encourage users to find a better place to put their CPU cycles.

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Re: Crashes

Do you write software?
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Techs do care about problems, which is why I'm fixing problems with a deliverable seven hours after the office closed. Some problems are easier to fix than others, especially if multi-threading is involved.

edit: I'm not a WCG tech, but I have been a paid programmer for over 27 years.
edit2: you might want to try upgrading to a 2.6 kernel, especially if you are running an AMD 64 machine. The available 64bit OS appears to be more efficient for Boinc.
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Do you write software?


Professionally? For a little less long than jal2. (Though not full time. I find system configuration, networking, system integration and installation, etc, more interesting than software projects which, these days, tend to last years.)

You might want to try upgrading to a 2.6 kernel, especially if you are running an AMD 64 machine. The available 64bit OS appears to be more efficient for Boinc.


These machines are happy old 32-bit machines. (The AMD is just a 900MHz Athlon.)

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TKH, what kind of silliness is this? To give a ****is perhaps slang. It's what dictionaries call "informal". Not a single one calls it vulgar, which is what I would expect if you are going to label it as "inappropriate".
Cambridge Dictionary: "not give/care a ****Informal:
used as a way of saying you do not care about something, especially the annoying things that someone else is doing or saying"
Oxford Dictionary (closest phrase): "not be worth a ****Informal: have no value"
American Heritage Dictionary: "****: Noun 2. Informal: The least valuable bit; a jot: not worth a ****."

If people here spent more time making the programs work and less time censoring innocuous posts, we'd all be better off.

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Re: Crashes

We are working on this issue. As soon as we have a solution to test we will put it in beta. I would suggest disabling HCC until the beta is available.

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Re: Crashes

Hello Kremmen,

The word that has been edited is on a list of words that are not to be used on this website and so it has been edited.

You are correct, we do have more important things to do than edit the forums, but as we ask that our forums be "kid friendly" we request that our members not use such words here. We appreciate your cooperation.

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Honestly, it's about time, though the way my e-abacus devours HCC WU's, I would only suggest multi-core users abandon it. You folks r doin okay! Don't let anyone tell you different! After all, how many users do we have now, compared to May of 2006, or March of 2005, when I was a part of UD. rose good luck
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The word that has been edited is on a list of words that are not to be used on this website and so it has been edited.


1) As dictionaries are clearly insufficient proof for you of the inappropriateness of the list in this case, I'll suggest another: The phrase "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn" is a famous line from the 1939 film Gone with the Wind, which has been rated G in the USA since 1971. If you are editing out phrases which appear in G-rated movies, I'm afraid I can't only conclude that whoever made up the list is an idiot and should be ignored.
2) "Cooperation" with such idiocy is difficult. I honestly had to look through my post word by word to find out what you'd censored, as I had no idea what it could be.
3) If you're going to blindly implement a block list without context, then you would at least save time if it were done automatically through the forum software and contributors would know what it was that was being censored that way, rather than having to waste time working it out later.
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They have a list. It makes things easier for them. I think it's dumb, and so do you - but they're not going to change their policy. It is done manually because some words are acceptable in context.

Please don't make things harder for the staff by deliberately using these words.
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They have a list. It makes things easier for them.

Sounds like you're about to pat them on the head and throw them a treat.

I think it's dumb, and so do you - but they're not going to change their policy.

The policy, if applied to actual abusive or annoying behaviour, is understandable. Some of the words, however, clearly do not belong on the list and it would be my hope that that can be changed. If not, they can censor out that which is acceptable in a G-rated movie and I leave it as an exercise for the reader to judge that action.

It is done manually because some words are acceptable in context.

I wonder how much mental processing it takes to work out which G-rated words are allowed and which ones aren't and in which contexts? Now, if only that wasted energy could be devoted to, say, fixing programming errors that have existed for 3 months.

Please don't make things harder for the staff by deliberately using these words.


IMHO, they are the ones making things hard. Sorry, when people want to waste my time in this way, I will happily give them at least as much back.
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